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  • KentuckyWild2020
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2020
    • 4120

    #121
    Originally posted by teamchemistry15

    So, you're just shouting things out that you cannot prove because they aren't true. Who's shocked?
    Undrafted Timothy Mozgof Undrafted signed a 3 year 10 million deal in 2010.

    You want to pay me minimum $150 per hour i will dig up intel on every Undrafted free agent that past 15 years. If not keep it moving, it's not that important,


    Last edited by KentuckyWild2020; 05-13-2025, 10:03 PM.

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    • teamchemistry15
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 7022

      #122
      Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

      Undrafted Timothy Mozgof Undrafted signed a 3 year 10 million deal in 2010.

      You want to pay me minimum $150 per hour i will dig up intel on every Undrafted free agent that past 15 years. If not keep it moving, it's not that important,

      Only if you include all of the undrafted players who didn't sign the deals that are clearly the exception. You have to look at the big picture and not just one aspect, but it seems you have a hard time doing that.

      Who a player guards is the only thing that determines his position

      Playing in the NBA is the only thing that matters in this decision

      There's two examples of an undrafted guy signing a deal for what he will make in college next year, don't worry about any of the other ones

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      • EKYCat
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2022
        • 881

        #123
        Not only citing 2 examples, they're signing these deals after several years. Mozgov went undrafted in 2008. He signed his deal in 2010. So again, why would OWEH sit around in a Euro league or the G-League in hopes that he can sign a lucrative deal in a couple years when he can make that money at UK? Further, Mozgov is a cautionary tale for NBA execs because the Lakers signed him to a huge deal later in his career and were roundly criticized for signing one of the terrible contracts. By the way, it took me about 5 minutes to figure that out and post this so who is going to pay me that portion of your $150 an hour?

        It's easy to post stuff like you post. Remember the NIL deals that you posted? So and so is making this and so and so is making that? The point I'm trying to make is (other than the obvious point that OWEH stands to make more money at UK and desires feedback so he can better position himself for future earnings) is if you're going to post figures, at least do a little research first. Don't get upset when somebody asks you where you got your information and act like you don't have time to look it up.

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        • DA#23
          Administrator
          • Oct 2014
          • 7342

          #124
          ^ I agree

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          • KentuckyWild2020
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2020
            • 4120

            #125
            Originally posted by EKYCat
            Not only citing 2 examples, they're signing these deals after several years. Mozgov went undrafted in 2008. He signed his deal in 2010. So again, why would OWEH sit around in a Euro league or the G-League in hopes that he can sign a lucrative deal in a couple years when he can make that money at UK? Further, Mozgov is a cautionary tale for NBA execs because the Lakers signed him to a huge deal later in his career and were roundly criticized for signing one of the terrible contracts. By the way, it took me about 5 minutes to figure that out and post this so who is going to pay me that portion of your $150 an hour?

            It's easy to post stuff like you post. Remember the NIL deals that you posted? So and so is making this and so and so is making that? The point I'm trying to make is (other than the obvious point that OWEH stands to make more money at UK and desires feedback so he can better position himself for future earnings) is if you're going to post figures, at least do a little research first. Don't get upset when somebody asks you where you got your information and act like you don't have time to look it up.
            I have clearly stated that Oweh will make much more by coming back to Kentucky.

            Undrafted Contracts??

            Not sure why this is even a issue or debate?

            I simply stated that if a player goes undrafted there is a possibility they can still sign a NBA deal and make a decent amount of money, more than the two way $500k or league minimum 1.1, it's fact...

            Does this happen often, no. but it's still a possibility. Still a possibility to earn more as a undrafted free agent, that is a fact.

            Still, if it's about the money, he makes more be coming back to Kentucky.

            In my opinion, it's about the opportunity to play in the NBA and if that window opens, I think he will take it even if it means less money.

            NIL numbers I posted??

            I remember someone chiming in and saying it was off, look at it now.



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            • KentuckyWild2020
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2020
              • 4120

              #126
              Originally posted by teamchemistry15

              Only if you include all of the undrafted players who didn't sign the deals that are clearly the exception. You have to look at the big picture and not just one aspect, but it seems you have a hard time doing that.
              Why, because it's FACT that a player can go undrafted and sign as a free agent and still make more than $500k or league minimum?

              Again, if it's about money he stays at Kentucky, PERIOD!!!



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              • KentuckyWild2020
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2020
                • 4120

                #127
                Originally posted by matt colvin
                ^ I agree
                I agree that there is no need to look up every undrafted players contract when it is FACT a undrafted unsigned played can still sign on for more than the two way $500k or the league minimum.

                It doesn't matter what the league overall average on contracts have been over the years.

                If Oweh is good enough and a team really wants him then they will pay him.

                If not, he needs to come back to Kentucky and not only make alot of money, but also develop his game more..

                If he is dead set on playing in the NBA and the window opens, he more than likely will make less money, that's on him...

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                • EKYCat
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2022
                  • 881

                  #128
                  Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

                  Why, because it's FACT that a player can go undrafted and sign as a free agent and still make more than $500k or league minimum?

                  Again, if it's about money he stays at Kentucky, PERIOD!!!


                  It's a FACT that they can, yes. But you previously posted that last year undrafted free agents average contract was $1.8MM. Then, the two guys you referenced didn't make that out of the gate as undrafted free agents. One guy worked his way into it fairly quickly but the other guy went undrafted in 2008 and signed a deal in 2010. Here is the thing, though. It is about money. Everything is about money now. But, my opinion is Oweh is leveraging this process to make more money in the NBA by coming back to UK and improving his stock to try and obtain a guaranteed deal.

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                  • EKYCat
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2022
                    • 881

                    #129
                    Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020


                    If Oweh is good enough and a team really wants him then they will pay him.
                    If Oweh is good enough and a team really wants him then they will draft him.

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                    • KentuckyWild2020
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2020
                      • 4120

                      #130
                      Originally posted by EKYCat

                      If Oweh is good enough and a team really wants him then they will draft him.
                      Facts true statement

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                      • KentuckyWild2020
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2020
                        • 4120

                        #131
                        Originally posted by EKYCat

                        It's a FACT that they can, yes. But you previously posted that last year undrafted free agents average contract was $1.8MM. Then, the two guys you referenced didn't make that out of the gate as undrafted free agents. One guy worked his way into it fairly quickly but the other guy went undrafted in 2008 and signed a deal in 2010. Here is the thing, though. It is about money. Everything is about money now. But, my opinion is Oweh is leveraging this process to make more money in the NBA by coming back to UK and improving his stock to try and obtain a guaranteed deal.
                        I mentioned a few pages back the 1.8 was off, google AI screwed me on that but it don't matter anyways.

                        Maybe I missed the memo. Are we all standing on a cliff pissing in the wind to see who can pee the farthest?

                        This isn't that serious.

                        I hope OWEH is back if he wants to earn money and most importantly be part of something special.

                        If he's made up his mind he's ready to make it to the league, I am afraid that he's ACTUALLY good enough that one team may just tell him what he wants to hear and he's gone..

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                        • KentuckyWild2020
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2020
                          • 4120

                          #132
                          Since OWEH is the hot topic, what happens if J. Lowe actually hears what he wants to hear???

                          Then what ?


                          Is BOOGIE FLAND a option as crazy as that may sound...

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                          • DA#23
                            Administrator
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 7342

                            #133
                            Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020
                            Since OWEH is the hot topic, what happens if J. Lowe actually hears what he wants to hear???

                            Then what ?


                            Is BOOGIE FLAND a option as crazy as that may sound...
                            Won’t happen

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                            • KCKUKFan
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 14228

                              #134
                              Boogie Fland will be at Florida and Jaland Lowe isn't going anywhere.

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                              • teamchemistry15
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 7022

                                #135
                                Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

                                Why, because it's FACT that a player can go undrafted and sign as a free agent and still make more than $500k or league minimum?

                                Again, if it's about money he stays at Kentucky, PERIOD!!!


                                Ever hear of averages? It's also a fact that hundreds of players that go undrafted try to make a team every year and do not. Going all the way back to Mozgov (who you've already been proved wrong about) in 2015, you're talking about 10,000 undrafted players and you've mentioned two that do not compare to Oweh and his situation. One has exhausted his college eligibility so he didn't have the choice to come back and make money in college, and the other had already been playing professional ball, went undrafted, played two more years professionally and THEN signed his deal.

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