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BR projects Oweh will be drafted: EDIT: Oweh Withdraws!

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  • KentuckyWild2020
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2020
    • 4120

    #61
    And I will throw this out there just to watch heads spin.

    As much as I like Oweh and hope he returns, started relying on him a little too much at times last year while everyone else just stood around and watched.

    Pope wants a team moving the ball taking the open 3 shot. not dependent on ONE player.

    If he comes back, does he have a deal with POPE that says you are the man, we are going to run everything through you so you can get your 1st round status up for the draft??


    There is a reason why Pope landed a NATIONAL Champion guard from Florida...

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    • EKYCat
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2022
      • 880

      #62
      Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

      No,,,,,

      It's league average minimum for UNDRAFTED college players who went through the system undrafted then the team that really wanted them signed them..


      Yall do understand that if a TEAM really wants a player that it's very possible to put out NEGATIVE information on that player too defer other teams from taking that player right?


      To think that it's all straight laced is crazy, it's the wild wild west..





      Where is the source for that? League minimum for rookies is $1.1MM. 2 way contracts are half that.

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      • DA#23
        Administrator
        • Oct 2014
        • 7342

        #63
        Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020
        And I will throw this out there just to watch heads spin.

        As much as I like Oweh and hope he returns, started relying on him a little too much at times last year while everyone else just stood around and watched.

        Pope wants a team moving the ball taking the open 3 shot. not dependent on ONE player.

        If he comes back, does he have a deal with POPE that says you are the man, we are going to run everything through you so you can get your 1st round status up for the draft??


        There is a reason why Pope landed a NATIONAL Champion guard from Florida...
        Injuries factored into that.

        Pope has said that if Oweh returns he’d be a favorite for SEC POY, etc.

        It’s no secret that he’ll be among the best players in the conference and hopefully country.

        We can have that without hairlipping the offense and any sort of team-concept.

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        • KentuckyWild2020
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2020
          • 4120

          #64
          Originally posted by KCKUKFan
          This is all nonsense. Oweh isnt going anywhere, and all this handwringing to the contrary is absurd.
          Until it's not..

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          • KentuckyWild2020
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2020
            • 4120

            #65
            Originally posted by EKYCat

            Where is the source for that? League minimum for rookies is $1.1MM. 2 way contracts are half that.
            KEY WORD, MINIMUM!!

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            • KentuckyWild2020
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2020
              • 4120

              #66
              I want OWEH back as much as anyone but there is a real chance he hears what he wants to hear.



              We should know one way or another on the 28th..

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              • Joneslab
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 39604

                #67
                Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020
                And I will throw this out there just to watch heads spin.

                As much as I like Oweh and hope he returns, started relying on him a little too much at times last year while everyone else just stood around and watched.

                Pope wants a team moving the ball taking the open 3 shot. not dependent on ONE player.

                If he comes back, does he have a deal with POPE that says you are the man, we are going to run everything through you so you can get your 1st round status up for the draft??


                There is a reason why Pope landed a NATIONAL Champion guard from Florida...
                They averaged about 90 a game. There wasn't much standing around.

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                • KentuckyWild2020
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2020
                  • 4120

                  #68
                  Originally posted by EKYCat

                  Where is the source for that? League minimum for rookies is $1.1MM. 2 way contracts are half that.
                  Undrafted players are not subject to the rookie wage scale that drafted players are.

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                  • KentuckyWild2020
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2020
                    • 4120

                    #69
                    Originally posted by EKYCat

                    Alright soothsayer, does OWEH get drafted? You study the league. What's your analysis?

                    The point is, why pass up a guarantee for a chance?
                    I honestly don't know but my gut is some team is going to tell him what he wants to hear and he's gone, hope I am wrong.

                    Even if he goes undrafted he can sign and the rookie pay scale does not apply.

                    Maybe he's a lower cost stash and develop, maybe he's a off the bench players right now.

                    Cavaliers, Mavericks,Pistons, Clippers, Lakers, Grizzlies, Milwaukee, Knicks, Orlando, 76ers, Phoenix, Kings,Spurs,Jazz, Wizards,..

                    Oweh could carve minutes with any of those teams but depends on who is or is coming off the books..

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                    • KCKUKFan
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 14228

                      #70
                      Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

                      I honestly don't know but my gut is some team is going to tell him what he wants to hear and he's gone, hope I am wrong.

                      Even if he goes undrafted he can sign and the rookie pay scale does not apply.

                      Maybe he's a lower cost stash and develop, maybe he's a off the bench players right now.

                      Cavaliers, Mavericks,Pistons, Clippers, Lakers, Grizzlies, Milwaukee, Knicks, Orlando, 76ers, Phoenix, Kings,Spurs,Jazz, Wizards,..

                      Oweh could carve minutes with any of those teams but depends on who is or is coming off the books..
                      Oweh wouldn't carve minutes for any of those teams right now. He is an inferior version of the worst active player on all those rosters.

                      What he wants to hear is a first round guarantee, and that's not going to happen. This is a deep draft. He knows it, Pope knows it, and fans with common sense know it.

                      He's doing what Robinson did last year: working the process and getting feedback. And he should. And he should do it with the intent of getting that guarantee, because he's a competitor.

                      OWEH will be at KENTUCKY next YEAR. I know it's Summer Psychosis around here, but holy crap.

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                      • Joneslab
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 39604

                        #71
                        “Summer Psychosis” was my least favorite Papa Roach album.

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                        • KCKUKFan
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 14228

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Will Lavender
                          “Summer Psychosis” was my least favorite Papa Roach album.
                          More like Sum 41

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                          • EKYCat
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2022
                            • 880

                            #73
                            Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

                            Undrafted players are not subject to the rookie wage scale that drafted players are.
                            Give some concrete examples of undrafted free agent contracts that are significantly above league minimum. Why would a team negotiate a contract for a player that NOBODY drafted that is higher than the average rookie contract? It doesn't make sense.

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                            • Joneslab
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 39604

                              #74
                              Justin Edwards made about 400K for Philly this past season as an undrafted free agent. That's got to be significantly less than Oweh could make if he returned to Kentucky.

                              Rookie of the year Stephon Castle made about 9 mil.

                              I do think sometimes, rarely but sometimes, it does come down to more than money and is more about a lifelong dream. However I don't buy the point about Oweh not being able to improve his stock. I think he could improve it quite a bit. Imagine that guy being the best player on a Final Four team. That would put him in the first round, I'd have to think, just by dint of being the dog on a team like that.

                              He could do a lot for himself by returning. He'll likely never be a rock-solid lotto pick or anything, but I rarely buy the "college doesn't help anybody" tune people've been singing for years. Unless it's somebody like Reed Sheppard.

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                              • KentuckyWild2020
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2020
                                • 4120

                                #75
                                Originally posted by KCKUKFan

                                Oweh wouldn't carve minutes for any of those teams right now. He is an inferior version of the worst active player on all those rosters.

                                What he wants to hear is a first round guarantee, and that's not going to happen. This is a deep draft. He knows it, Pope knows it, and fans with common sense know it.

                                He's doing what Robinson did last year: working the process and getting feedback. And he should. And he should do it with the intent of getting that guarantee, because he's a competitor.

                                OWEH will be at KENTUCKY next YEAR. I know it's Summer Psychosis around here, but holy crap.
                                I will agree with you on this.

                                If he's truly looking for a first round guarantee then he's just wasting time, that aint happening, he will be back.

                                I like him but he aint that good..

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