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  • Joneslab
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 39604

    #76
    Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

    I will agree with you on this.

    If he's truly looking for a first round guarantee then he's just wasting time, that aint happening, he will be back.

    I like him but he aint that good..
    He's a heck of a college player. One of the more consistent guys Kentucky has had in some years.

    Hard to imagine him as a pro with the way they're playing.

    But there's sometimes a pretty massive difference between a good collegiate and a good pro. This is what makes people believe we could get lucky with Oweh because he doesn't have NBA attributes...but he's got a deep college bag.

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    • KentuckyWild2020
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2020
      • 4120

      #77
      Originally posted by EKYCat

      Give some concrete examples of undrafted free agent contracts that are significantly above league minimum. Why would a team negotiate a contract for a player that NOBODY drafted that is higher than the average rookie contract? It doesn't make sense.
      Will be honest, not going to dig in and look at every non drafted players NBA current contract the past few years, I don't have the time or the care to be honest.

      However, if you want to work, I will dig in with you and you can read the CBA., I would advise starting on page 33 to save some time..

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      • KentuckyWild2020
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2020
        • 4120

        #78
        Originally posted by Will Lavender
        Justin Edwards made about 400K for Philly this past season as an undrafted free agent. That's got to be significantly less than Oweh could make if he returned to Kentucky.

        Rookie of the year Stephon Castle made about 9 mil.

        I do think sometimes, rarely but sometimes, it does come down to more than money and is more about a lifelong dream. However I don't buy the point about Oweh not being able to improve his stock. I think he could improve it quite a bit. Imagine that guy being the best player on a Final Four team. That would put him in the first round, I'd have to think, just by dint of being the dog on a team like that.

        He could do a lot for himself by returning. He'll likely never be a rock-solid lotto pick or anything, but I rarely buy the "college doesn't help anybody" tune people've been singing for years. Unless it's somebody like Reed Sheppard.
        But in reality, Justin Edwards sucked at Kentucky, no where near Oweh.

        But's he's 6'7

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        • DA#23
          Administrator
          • Oct 2014
          • 7342

          #79
          Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

          Will be honest, not going to dig in and look at every non drafted players NBA current contract the past few years, I don't have the time or the care to be honest.
          Which UFA made 1.8 million last year?

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          • KentuckyWild2020
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2020
            • 4120

            #80
            Originally posted by Will Lavender

            He's a heck of a college player. One of the more consistent guys Kentucky has had in some years.

            Hard to imagine him as a pro with the way they're playing.

            But there's sometimes a pretty massive difference between a good collegiate and a good pro. This is what makes people believe we could get lucky with Oweh because he doesn't have NBA attributes...but he's got a deep college bag.
            Well basketball is weird from the college level to pro level.

            Great college players flop in the pro's while slightly above average college players excel in the Pro's.

            The system, the maturity, the missed evaluations and rankings, hard to say..

            At the end, i think it's about the opportunity.

            How does OWEH play when the ball isn't in his hands and he doesn't have the freedom to do what he wants to do because he hasn't earned that right?

            How do you earn that right if you never get to play meaningful minutes?

            It's not like NBA practices are a stage set to earn a starting spot, that's already been determined via contracts etc. for the most part..

            Oweh could be a Marcus Smart type of player if he had the defense but he will need to be able to handle the ball which i think he can, not sure about his passing..

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            • DA#23
              Administrator
              • Oct 2014
              • 7342

              #81
              From page 1 to page 5, the evolution of OWEH

              Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020
              Jodie Meeks 2.0.

              He comes back good chance we hang a banner
              Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

              I will agree with you on this.

              If he's truly looking for a first round guarantee then he's just wasting time, that aint happening, he will be back.

              I like him but he aint that good..

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              • EKYCat
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2022
                • 880

                #82
                Originally posted by matt colvin

                Which UFA made 1.8 million last year?
                He's not going to dig because research is harder than just spouting off random numbers.

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                • DA#23
                  Administrator
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 7342

                  #83
                  Originally posted by EKYCat

                  He's not going to dig because research is harder than just spouting off random numbers.
                  Ah beg to differ Sir, it’s because he has neither the time nor the care.

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                  • KentuckyWild2020
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2020
                    • 4120

                    #84
                    Originally posted by matt colvin

                    Which UFA made 1.8 million last year?

                    Keshad Johnson signed a 2 year, $2,680,260 contract with the Miami Heat on Dec 26, 2024.


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                    • EKYCat
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2022
                      • 880

                      #85
                      That's one. You stated the average is $1.8MM.

                      Johnson was originally signed on a 2-way contract, by the way. So it's not like he negotiated that contract right out of the box. He played his way into it.

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                      • DA#23
                        Administrator
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 7342

                        #86
                        Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020


                        Keshad Johnson signed a 2 year, $2,680,260 contract with the Miami Heat on Dec 26, 2024.

                        After playing in the G-League, he originally played on a two way contract.

                        He got in there and earned it.

                        That’s a bit of gamble compared to Otega Oweh who still has eligibility and stands to make a guaranteed 7 figures next year at Kentucky.

                        Not a good comparison here. Johnson had exhausted his eligibility

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                        • Joneslab
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 39604

                          #87
                          Fun fact: Kentucky wanted Keshad Johnson pretty badly and lost him to Arizona. He's one of several players over the years that I chalked up almost totally to the roster...only to have the rug pulled out.

                          A tale as old as time.

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                          • DA#23
                            Administrator
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 7342

                            #88
                            Brandon Rush for me Will. Brandon Rush

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                            • KentuckyWild2020
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2020
                              • 4120

                              #89
                              Originally posted by matt colvin

                              After playing in the G-League, he originally played on a two way contract.

                              He got in there and earned it.

                              That’s a bit of gamble compared to Otega Oweh who still has eligibility and stands to make a guaranteed 7 figures next year at Kentucky.

                              Not a good comparison here. Johnson had exhausted his eligibility
                              Comparison is perfect..

                              As I have said repeatedly, it's not about the money.

                              A blind man can see it it's about the money then OWEH would have already announced. I think if he believes he can make a NBA roster he may be gone 1st second or undrafted, he's looking for a team that believes in him.

                              Evaluation, what are they going to tell him that he doesn't already know?

                              Pope played in the NBA, I am sure he knows what he needs to work on moving forward.

                              I think OWEH wants to play in the NBA now if possible..

                              Anyways, Johnson is about 500k short, not 1.8.

                              I read a bs piece that said the average was about 1.8 but it's a little lower.

                              Still, if you go back, Mozgof and a few others got paid going undrafted..

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                              • KCKUKFan
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 14228

                                #90
                                Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

                                Comparison is perfect..

                                As I have said repeatedly, it's not about the money.

                                A blind man can see it it's about the money then OWEH would have already announced. I think if he believes he can make a NBA roster he may be gone 1st second or undrafted, he's looking for a team that believes in him.

                                Evaluation, what are they going to tell him that he doesn't already know?

                                Pope played in the NBA, I am sure he knows what he needs to work on moving forward.

                                I think OWEH wants to play in the NBA now if possible..

                                Anyways, Johnson is about 500k short, not 1.8.

                                I read a bs piece that said the average was about 1.8 but it's a little lower.

                                Still, if you go back, Mozgof and a few others got paid going undrafted..
                                I'd like to play in the NBA now, if possible, but it's not.

                                Just five years ago, before NIL, I'd just assume Oweh was out the door and I'd wish him well. But the playing fields have been leveled for guys like him, and he knows he'd benefit from his senior year at Kentucky with a guaranteed 3 mil.

                                He's a smart kid and NIL gives him options that a guy like him wouldn't have had just a few years ago.

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