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2025-26 Roster Chatter (UPDATE: Oweh Returns, Roster Complete)

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  • EKYCat
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2022
    • 878

    #631
    Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

    So did OWEH mostly guard Small Forward's or Shooting Guards???
    What are you missing? He could have guarded the other team's center the entire game. That doesn't make him a center.

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    • George
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 10355

      #632
      Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

      So did OWEH mostly guard Small Forward's or Shooting Guards???
      Again, that has no bearing on whether or not he is a two or a three. A player's position is determined by what he does on offense.

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      • KCKUKFan
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 14228

        #633
        Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

        Go back and re watch every tip of every Kentucky game this year and tell me who Oweh was matched up against at the tip..

        A guard or a forward????

        For the fourth time, he typically matched up against the opposing team's best wing player; it didn't matter what position they were.

        In Pope's offense, he was a more pure 3 than Kentucky has had in more than a decade. Besides, position designation is based on offense, not defense.

        I can't believe this is a conversation that needs to be had on a Kentucky basketball board in 2025.
        Last edited by KCKUKFan; 04-08-2025, 11:10 AM.

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        • KentuckyWild2020
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2020
          • 4120

          #634
          Originally posted by EKYCat

          To not have time for this "bs" this morning you're awfully adamant.



          Why does this start chaos? Garrison played a backup role this year with what seemed like zero pushback. It's possible to have two guys on the same team who play the same position.
          1. Why nit pick and start argument because I said OWEH was the 2 guard and make a big deal out of all this???

          Are we keeping score??? Do we get a special prize for having post of the day at Wildcatnation? Do we get to walk around all day with our chest out head up high??

          Is there any money involved because if it aint, i could care less, period!!!!!!


          Does Garrison strike you as the type of kid who came to Kentucky come off the bench??? Maybe year 1, he will take that BAPTISM but he ain't coming back year two to come off the bench, especially when he has a child to raise and ambitions to get to the next level. If the money is right he may come off the bench maybe but I highly doubt it.

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          • Joneslab
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 39604

            #635
            Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020
            Is there any money involved because if it aint, i could care less, period!!!!!!
            I make $237,000 a year for what I do here. I just assumed everybody did.

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            • KentuckyWild2020
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2020
              • 4120

              #636
              Originally posted by KCKUKFan

              For the fourth time, he typically matched up against the opposing team's best wing player; it didn't matter what position they were.

              In Pope's offense, he was a more pure 3 than Kentucky has had in more than a decade. Besides, position designation is based on offense, not defense.

              I can't believe this is a conversation that needs to be had on a Kentucky basketball board in 2025.
              More pure than Keldon Johnson???

              Fake news!!!!

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              • KentuckyWild2020
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2020
                • 4120

                #637
                Originally posted by Will Lavender

                I make $237,000 a year for what I do here. I just assumed everybody did.
                Chump change!!!

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                • EKYCat
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2022
                  • 878

                  #638
                  Originally posted by Will Lavender

                  I make $237,000 a year for what I do here. I just assumed everybody did.
                  That's it? You need to enter the portal.

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                  • George
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 10355

                    #639
                    Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

                    More pure than Keldon Johnson???

                    Fake news!!!!
                    Johnson was a SG at UK.

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                    • EKYCat
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2022
                      • 878

                      #640
                      Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

                      More pure than Keldon Johnson???

                      Fake news!!!!
                      Pretty similar players, actually. KJ 6'5" 220 and Otega 6'4" 215. KJ stat line at UK:

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                      Oweh's stat line this year:

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                      • Joneslab
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 39604

                        #641
                        I'd say Johnson played more of a 3, Herro a 2...though in Cal's system it was a little murkier.

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                        • KCKUKFan
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 14228

                          #642
                          Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

                          More pure than Keldon Johnson???

                          Fake news!!!!
                          Keldon Johnson was a 2G/3 combo with Tyler Herro, because Cal was incapable of landing a true 3. And, yes, Oweh played the 3 more purely than Keldon Johnson, because that's not his natural position.

                          Do you watch these games?
                          Last edited by KCKUKFan; 04-08-2025, 11:29 AM.

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                          • KentuckyWild2020
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2020
                            • 4120

                            #643
                            It's very possible Pope doesn't even acknowledge the 3 spot!!! In his mind they are all guards!!!


                            Kentucky basketball coach Mark Pope is known for playing a 3-guard offense emphasizing shooting and spacing the floor with multiple players capable of shooting from beyond the arc.


                            At one point in his clinic, Coach Pope discusses some of the essential rules he has for guards on his teams:



                            1. Pace, Space and Extra Pass

                            All three of these things are pretty self-explanatory, as he wants all of his players who could potentially be handling the ball to look to push in transition at every opportunity, create and reinforce spacing when the team is in a half court offense, and look to make the extra pass to get an even better shot than the one that’s available.



                            2. Deep Corner

                            Coach Pope believes in occupying the deep corner for guards, and not just for within the dribble handoff and the pistol offense. For every offensive set, especially when it comes to anything that involves penetration into the paint, he believes that having somebody in the deep corner is crucial.



                            3. DHO Below FT Line, Dribble at Defender, Jump Stop

                            Coach Pope’s third guard rule centers around always executing the dribble handoff below the free throw line, as that’s what will open up the most offensive opportunities.



                            Off of that, he asserts that a ball handler should always be dribbling at the defender if they’re going downhill in order to force them into making a defensive decision. The last aspect of this rule is coming to a jump stop to keep control and not play too recklessly.

                            4. Turn Ball if Stalled

                            Not only does Coach Pope say that the ball should get turned if a guard’s isolation attack comes to a stall, but that should always be the first point of emphasis when the half court offense gets stalled, as well.

                            In addition, the guard should dribble hard at the corner in this situation, because everybody in the offense knows where to go when the player does this.



                            5. Driving Line

                            According to Coach Pope, a player should always be looking to maintain their driving line, because that’s going to open up scoring opportunities for teammates because of how it forces defending players to squeeze inward to stop the drive.
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                            • 40bill
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 8451

                              #644
                              At any rate, Coach certainly seems to have addressed concerns we all speak of as far as rebounding.

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                              • KCKUKFan
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 14228

                                #645
                                You're really dying on this hill, aren't cha?

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