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  • George
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 10355

    #46
    Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

    What are they going to tell him,he needs to work on his jump shot?

    He can go undrafted and sign as a free agent, all it takes is one team.

    Average salary last year for a undrafted player was roughly 1.8 million.

    This is about the opportunity to play in the NBA,not about first round guaranteed money 💰.

    If it was about money, he would have already confirmed his return to Kentucky.

    Mock drafts about as trustworthy as a 5 star rating. You have a few cant miss then there's the rest..
    Do you just want one of us to tell you “Yeah, he’s definitely leaving”?

    I will if it’ll stop this.

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    • teamchemistry15
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 7022

      #47
      Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

      What are they going to tell him,he needs to work on his jump shot?

      He can go undrafted and sign as a free agent, all it takes is one team.

      Average salary last year for a undrafted player was roughly 1.8 million.

      This is about the opportunity to play in the NBA,not about first round guaranteed money 💰.

      If it was about money, he would have already confirmed his return to Kentucky.

      Mock drafts about as trustworthy as a 5 star rating. You have a few cant miss then there's the rest..
      Your first question implies he isn't capable of improving his stock to a first round pick. Yes, they'll tell him that and more specific things that the scouts like to see. They'll tell him what aspects he can improve on and break down his game in ways that you and I don't understand.

      If he's good enough to get a guarantee of signing a contract as an un drafted FA, why wouldn't they draft him? Banking on a contract like that is risky and NIL has changed the game.

      Correct, it's about playing in the NBA. He currently isn't good enough to do that according to virtually every scout out there and based on draft rankings. He needs to get feedback from the pros to see what he needs to do to become an NBA player.

      It's not about money? It's only about playing in the NBA? Why didn't he agree to $0 NIL and to give his part to other players? Why doesn't he tell a team that he'll sign a contract for the minimum?

      Unless he gets a first round guarantee, he'll be back. Name your wager.

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      • Joneslab
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 39604

        #48
        In the NIL era you wouldn't think a player of Oweh's caliber, who could be the SEC POY, would pass up another year of college for something like a free agent contract.

        Honestly, it would kind of kick us back to the days of Cal. You'd think the Kentucky program would be past that sort of thing.

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        • DA#23
          Administrator
          • Oct 2014
          • 7342

          #49
          Originally posted by Will Lavender
          Honestly, it would kind of kick us back to the days of Cal. You'd think the Kentucky program would be past that sort of thing.
          I sort of hate to phrase it this way, but it's something of an early defining moment for this new era.

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          • teamchemistry15
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 7022

            #50
            Originally posted by Will Lavender
            In the NIL era you wouldn't think a player of Oweh's caliber, who could be the SEC POY, would pass up another year of college for something like a free agent contract.

            Honestly, it would kind of kick us back to the days of Cal. You'd think the Kentucky program would be past that sort of thing.
            Right. Jworld's theory of "it's all about playing in the NBA" is wildly inaccurate. It's like Pope going on the recruiting trail and saying "it's Kentucky. We're a blue blood so there's no money involved, but you get to play college ball at one of the best programs there is."

            Sure, that's part of it but there's a big picture to everything and the entire package has to make sense. One more college season to make millions, at a place like Kentucky, with proper feedback from scouts to develop into a first round pick? Nah, I'll give that up for a chance at an undrafted two way contract for 500k. If that chance doesn't work out? G league, baby. Ball. Is. Life.

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            • Joneslab
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 39604

              #51
              Here's Kevin Connor's latest mock draft. No Oweh...but Brea shows up early in the second round.

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              • EKYCat
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2022
                • 881

                #52
                Originally posted by teamchemistry15

                Right. Jworld's theory of "it's all about playing in the NBA" is wildly inaccurate. It's like Pope going on the recruiting trail and saying "it's Kentucky. We're a blue blood so there's no money involved, but you get to play college ball at one of the best programs there is."

                Sure, that's part of it but there's a big picture to everything and the entire package has to make sense. One more college season to make millions, at a place like Kentucky, with proper feedback from scouts to develop into a first round pick? Nah, I'll give that up for a chance at an undrafted two way contract for 500k. If that chance doesn't work out? G league, baby. Ball. Is. Life.
                Pretty much my thoughts in a nutshell.

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                • KentuckyWild2020
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2020
                  • 4120

                  #53
                  Originally posted by teamchemistry15

                  Your first question implies he isn't capable of improving his stock to a first round pick. Yes, they'll tell him that and more specific things that the scouts like to see. They'll tell him what aspects he can improve on and break down his game in ways that you and I don't understand.

                  If he's good enough to get a guarantee of signing a contract as an un drafted FA, why wouldn't they draft him? Banking on a contract like that is risky and NIL has changed the game.

                  Correct, it's about playing in the NBA. He currently isn't good enough to do that according to virtually every scout out there and based on draft rankings. He needs to get feedback from the pros to see what he needs to do to become an NBA player.

                  It's not about money? It's only about playing in the NBA? Why didn't he agree to $0 NIL and to give his part to other players? Why doesn't he tell a team that he'll sign a contract for the minimum?

                  Unless he gets a first round guarantee, he'll be back. Name your wager.
                  So now it's gone from "he's coming back" to "if it's a first round guarantee"?

                  It's not about the money. You me my dead momma and everybody in there right mind knows that OWEH will make much more by coming back to Kentucky. Forget NIL, local off the books and endorsements alone is a great income if you play for the University of Kentucky..

                  Do you know of how many young freshman and sophomore players have been drafted that needed to work on a handful of things??

                  Do you think a NBA team would rather teach a player these skills or leave it up to a college coach or assistant?

                  Again, average no drafted players last year was paid 1.8 million as a free agent, not even drafted....

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                  • EKYCat
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2022
                    • 881

                    #54
                    Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

                    So now it's gone from "he's coming back" to "if it's a first round guarantee"?

                    It's not about the money. You me my dead momma and everybody in there right mind knows that OWEH will make much more by coming back to Kentucky. Forget NIL, local off the books and endorsements alone is a great income if you play for the University of Kentucky..

                    Do you know of how many young freshman and sophomore players have been drafted that needed to work on a handful of things??

                    Do you think a NBA team would rather teach a player these skills or leave it up to a college coach or assistant?

                    Again, average no drafted players last year was paid 1.8 million as a free agent, not even drafted....
                    Where are you getting those salary figures? Is it skewed by one player?

                    You might be right, it's not about the money right now. It's about what he can do to improve his stock and make more money down the road. Not a new or novel concept.

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                    • KentuckyWild2020
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2020
                      • 4120

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

                      Do you just want one of us to tell you “Yeah, he’s definitely leaving”?

                      I will if it’ll stop this.
                      I don't need you or anyone else to tell me nothing.

                      With all due respect, all of a sudden we have a bunch of NBA experts when 99.9% of Kentucky fans don't even watch the NBA...

                      OWEH is a athlete first and foremost, still can't teach that. In a watered down NBA league, OWEH is more than capable of playing in the league right now compared to some of the other role players on some of these teams.

                      Question is, what ROLE can OWEH bring to the table for a NBA team? Is it defense, shooting, attacking the rim, passing, IQ?

                      Is some team going to draft him give him the ball and the keys to the city and say the greenlight is all yours? H TO T HE No, he's not a superstar, at least not at this point in his career.

                      He can't shoot the 3 consistenly?

                      Bridges of NEW YORK makes a living shooting mid range shots, the mid range shot isn't totally dead, it still gets buckets...

                      I wish people would actually watch a NBA game with some of the players that are on these teams and then honestly compare them to OWEH.

                      What about all the foreign players in the draft??? Can make more money by staying overseas in most cases.

                      I wan't OWEH back at KENTUCKY because I am selfish and greedy, I want KENTUCKY to be that TEAM .

                      Reality I am preparing myself mentally for a team without him..

                      All those SEC games and things he did was great for us but now it's coming back to bite us...

                      How many players have we seen in the past do very little except for a outburst here and there just enough to warrant them on to the next level??
                      Last edited by KentuckyWild2020; 05-13-2025, 11:44 AM.

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                      • KentuckyWild2020
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2020
                        • 4120

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Will Lavender
                        In the NIL era you wouldn't think a player of Oweh's caliber, who could be the SEC POY, would pass up another year of college for something like a free agent contract.

                        Honestly, it would kind of kick us back to the days of Cal. You'd think the Kentucky program would be past that sort of thing.
                        Look at what undrafted free agents are getting on a rookie deal. Still a great salary and the prestige of being on a NBA squad.

                        Very few may grow up and dream of playing at Kentucky but the all dream of playing in the NBA.

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                        • EKYCat
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2022
                          • 881

                          #57
                          Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

                          I don't need you or anyone else to tell me nothing.

                          With all due respect, all of a sudden we have a bunch of NBA experts when 99.9% of Kentucky fans don't even watch the NBA...

                          OWEH is a athlete first and foremost, still can't teach that. In a watered down NBA league, OWEH is more than capable of playing in the league right now compared to some of the other role players on some of these teams.

                          Question is, what ROLE can OWEH bring to the table for a NBA team? Is it defense, shooting, attacking the rim, passing, IQ?

                          Is some team going to draft him give him the ball and the keys to the city and say the greenlight is all yours? H TO T HE No, he's not a superstar, at least not at this point in his career.

                          He can't shoot the 3 consistenly?

                          Bridges of NEW YORK makes a living shooting mid range shots, the mid range shot isn't totally dead, it still gets buckets...

                          I wish people would actually watch a NBA game with some of the players that are on these teams and then honestly compare them to OWEH.

                          What about all the foreign players in the draft??? Can make more money by staying overseas in most cases.

                          I wan't OWEH back at KENTUCKY because I am selfish and greedy, I want KENTUCKY to be that TEAM .

                          Reality I am preparing myself mentally for a team without him..

                          All those SEC games and things he did was great for us but for us now.

                          How many players have we seen in the past do very little except for a outburst here and there just enough to warrant them on to the next level??
                          Alright soothsayer, does OWEH get drafted? You study the league. What's your analysis?

                          The point is, why pass up a guarantee for a chance?

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                          • KentuckyWild2020
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2020
                            • 4120

                            #58
                            Originally posted by EKYCat

                            Where are you getting those salary figures? Is it skewed by one player?

                            You might be right, it's not about the money right now. It's about what he can do to improve his stock and make more money down the road. Not a new or novel concept.
                            No,,,,,

                            It's league average minimum for UNDRAFTED college players who went through the system undrafted then the team that really wanted them signed them..


                            Yall do understand that if a TEAM really wants a player that it's very possible to put out NEGATIVE information on that player too defer other teams from taking that player right?


                            To think that it's all straight laced is crazy, it's the wild wild west..






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                            • KentuckyWild2020
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2020
                              • 4120

                              #59
                              Originally posted by teamchemistry15

                              Right. Jworld's theory of "it's all about playing in the NBA" is wildly inaccurate. It's like Pope going on the recruiting trail and saying "it's Kentucky. We're a blue blood so there's no money involved, but you get to play college ball at one of the best programs there is."

                              Sure, that's part of it but there's a big picture to everything and the entire package has to make sense. One more college season to make millions, at a place like Kentucky, with proper feedback from scouts to develop into a first round pick? Nah, I'll give that up for a chance at an undrafted two way contract for 500k. If that chance doesn't work out? G league, baby. Ball. Is. Life.

                              Or one wrong step ACHILLES torn basketball career over or set back a few years.

                              Or, passed over in the draft head overseas and get paid, develop all the things they said i sucked at and come back to the NBA.

                              College, Gleague is not the only option...

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                              • KCKUKFan
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 14228

                                #60
                                This is all nonsense. Oweh isnt going anywhere, and all this handwringing to the contrary is absurd.

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