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Hamidou Diallo to Test Waters (UPDATE: DIALLO TO RETURN TO UK)

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  • SCBlu
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 1016

    #181
    Originally posted by justford
    I believe many fans look at the success of Roy Williams with few one and dones and ask why not UK?
    BINGO!

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    • GOCAT15
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 2019

      #182
      Originally posted by SCBlu

      BINGO!
      It is just as much luck as anything to put together a team of Mcdonalds all americans who stay around for 3-4 years. Jackson was a top 10 recruit, but wasn't a superstar at first so he wasn't one and done. Roy has been quoted numerous times saying he has recruited most of the kids that picked UK, it's not like he hasn't wanted the players we got. There is no way to see the future and be able to recruit one or two, one and done studs, along with a few top 50 players who may stick around for a few years like WCS.

      It takes a nice mix to win a title in my opinion, just like in 2012, you have to have a stud recruit or two, then get lucky and have potential first and second round picks come back for a second year....Jones, Lamb, and still be lucky enough to have a contributing senior, Miller. That in my opinion is your recipe for success, so to say that Roy is a great coach because he wins without one and dones is a joke, he just had top recruits that didn't pan out that stuck around a few years and got better. And I am just talking about Roys teams since Calipari has been here and the whole one and done era really took off.

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      • J.Jennings
        Banned
        • Oct 2014
        • 7005

        #183
        Did Cam Johnson visit over the weekend?

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        • Joneslab
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 39604

          #184
          Originally posted by J.Jennings
          Did Cam Johnson visit over the weekend?
          Yes. Still plans to make other visits. Going to Arizona this weekend.

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          • GOCAT15
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 2019

            #185
            I have no doubt Hami can workout his way into a late first round guarantee....I would just like to know if that's good enough for him, or if he has a goal to get that big lottery pick check.

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            • GOCAT15
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 2019

              #186
              Someone has to have an inside idea on his families financial status and what thought process he is having.

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              • Joneslab
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 39604

                #187
                Originally posted by GOCAT15
                I have no doubt Hami can workout his way into a late first round guarantee....I would just like to know if that's good enough for him, or if he has a goal to get that big lottery pick check.
                The Zagoria article I posted in the recruiting thread suggests that he'll come back if he isn't first round.

                If this were last year's draft he probably would be in the first round. Not sure about this draft...although there are a few teams who do take real risks with players late in the first. You always see foreign guys through there who are 18 and won't play in the NBA for two or three years.

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                • justford
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 4669

                  #188
                  Originally posted by GOCAT15

                  It is just as much luck as anything to put together a team of Mcdonalds all americans who stay around for 3-4 years. Jackson was a top 10 recruit, but wasn't a superstar at first so he wasn't one and done. Roy has been quoted numerous times saying he has recruited most of the kids that picked UK, it's not like he hasn't wanted the players we got. There is no way to see the future and be able to recruit one or two, one and done studs, along with a few top 50 players who may stick around for a few years like WCS.

                  It takes a nice mix to win a title in my opinion, just like in 2012, you have to have a stud recruit or two, then get lucky and have potential first and second round picks come back for a second year....Jones, Lamb, and still be lucky enough to have a contributing senior, Miller. That in my opinion is your recipe for success, so to say that Roy is a great coach because he wins without one and dones is a joke, he just had top recruits that didn't pan out that stuck around a few years and got better. And I am just talking about Roys teams since Calipari has been here and the whole one and done era really took off.
                  Ole Roy is pretty lucky

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                  • GOCAT15
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 2019

                    #189
                    Originally posted by justford

                    Ole Roy is pretty lucky
                    In the last 5 years you won't find many other coaches who have had as many Mcdonalds all americans as him stay 3-4 years.

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                    • justford
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 4669

                      #190
                      Insight from Diallo's former coach

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                      • Joneslab
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 39604

                        #191
                        Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt
                        Were you not the one who, back when Diallo joined the team, said that Cal wouldn't put himself in a situation to miss on another guard prospect* because of Diallo? Yet here we are.
                        I think it could be that Cal didn't think he'd put himself in a position to miss on another guard prospect...but clearly he felt like it was a possibility after the season because he immediately jumped in on Baker and Smith and Cam Johnson, and is still on Knox.

                        I assumed Diallo was going to be at Kentucky next season, and he still may be. The decision to test looks like it wasn't an easy one; he waited until almost literally the last minute. I doubt Cal is surprised by it but I do think much was contingent on him being here next year.
                        Last edited by Joneslab; 05-02-2017, 02:28 PM.

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                        • Joneslab
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 39604

                          #192
                          Originally posted by Friendsofcoal
                          I'm sure I can go back into some older threads and find where I predicted this but I won't. Nearly everyone thought I was crazy and especially you, Will.


                          I wouldn't say anyone was crazy, but the whole point of that thread was whether or not the guy would end up in the NBA, not whether he would test the waters. As of May 2, he's not in the NBA. It could turn out that way, but then it again it might not.

                          What was predicted in that thread IIRC was that Diallo was just "using" Kentucky in some way. I just don't buy that at all. Diallo got very little out of UK. The only thing he did was get John Calipari's stamp of approval. That certainly means something...but that alone won't get him in the first round.

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                          • justford
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 4669

                            #193
                            ^^Diallo got very little out of UK. The only thing he did was get John Calipari's stamp of approval ^^

                            I really believe no matter how this turns out, he got more than very little from being at UK for four months.

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                            • Joneslab
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 39604

                              #194
                              Originally posted by justford
                              ^^Diallo got very little out of UK. The only thing he did was get John Calipari's stamp of approval ^^

                              I really believe no matter how this turns out, he got more than very little from being at UK for four months.
                              Well, he may have become a better player because of practicing.

                              But is four months of practice going to make him an NBA first-rounder? Doubtful. If he's a first-rounder it's because of his athleticism and size for his position. He'll still be raw and unpolished and all the things kids who have never played against elite competition in real games always are.

                              He could have just as easily done what he's doing now had he gone to UConn or anywhere else. I don't think the Diallo family's idea was to come to Kentucky, milk it for four months, and then hightail it out.

                              I see his testing the waters as exactly what it is. Testing the waters.

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                              • BJD
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 454

                                #195
                                I've thought all along that Diallo is a first rounder this year if he wants to go. He's the 3rd best pro prospect on our roster. He should have played this season. There's no way the NBA passes on a guy with his potential.

                                He's a future star in the league.

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