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Hamidou Diallo to Test Waters (UPDATE: DIALLO TO RETURN TO UK)

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  • J.Jennings
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    • Oct 2014
    • 7005

    #121
    Originally posted by KCKUKFan

    Okay, I'll play your little game.

    Which coach would you take over Cal to coach all this NBA talent to more titles than the one we've got?

    Coach K? We saw what he accomplished with his "super team" this year.

    Bill Self? Ha.

    Roy Williams? Arguable. But we've seen him bust with super talented teams for years.

    I would love to see Rick Pitino able to coach all the talent that Cal gets, one time.....

    That's as real and as honest as i can be about it. Rick can't recruit in todays modern game at Louisville the way Cal can at Kentucky but that dude knows how to get a team playing based on it's strengths and weakness....

    Yall can hate Rick, you can discredit anything he ever did at Kentucky, i don't care. All is know, the man can Coach and if he was able to recruit like Cal, i absolutely would not want to face him or Billy Donovan, to be perfectly honest......

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    • J.Jennings
      Banned
      • Oct 2014
      • 7005

      #122
      Originally posted by KCKUKFan

      The coaches asked him if he wanted to play and he said no. What were they supposed to do?

      Ultimately, I'm guessing he'll be back in Kentucky blue next year and this will all be a moot point.
      Maybe, we shall see.

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      • teamchemistry15
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 7022

        #123
        Originally posted by J.Jennings

        Name a coach(s) in the country that could have won possibly 3 to 4 titles with all that talent the past 8 years...


        Now lets' keep it all the way real, i can start pointing fingers to all those UK fans who swore up and down Calipari was a crook and a cheat at Memphis, now they love him, ready to take a bullet for him lol lol lol lol lol

        Like it or not, at some point it's time to start looking a head and scoping out another coach for down the road, Cal is not going to be here forever.....
        No other coach got those players or gets them consistently.

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        • teamchemistry15
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 7022

          #124
          We can't have Cal here as a recruiter and hire someone else as a coach. It doesn't work like that. The players come here for Cal not for Kentucky. Without him we don't get all of the players we have had so arguing another coach would've won more with the same players isn't worth the argument. It's all hypothetical.

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          • KCKUKFan
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2014
            • 14228

            #125
            Originally posted by J.Jennings


            I would love to see Rick Pitino able to coach all the talent that Cal gets, one time.....

            That's as real and as honest as i can be about it. Rick can't recruit in todays modern game at Louisville the way Cal can at Kentucky but that dude knows how to get a team playing based on it's strengths and weakness....

            Yall can hate Rick, you can discredit anything he ever did at Kentucky, i don't care. All is know, the man can Coach and if he was able to recruit like Cal, i absolutely would not want to face him or Billy Donovan, to be perfectly honest......
            The facts prove otherwise. Rick thrives with guys who are a little less heralded. He's a master at coaching guys up and creating cohesive teams with one or two excellent players and a bunch of glue guys. Even when he was at Kentucky. Aside from a Mashburn/Walker/Mercer here and there, he never recruited the very best NBA-ready, five star talent.

            And when he's tried the one-and-done approach at Louisville, it's been a disaster.

            You could argue that he would've won more titles so far than Cal, but I don't think that's the case. As a matter of fact, I think it would've been a minor disaster. Rick, especially in his current state, is not equipped to deal with these freshmen phenoms.

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            • J.Jennings
              Banned
              • Oct 2014
              • 7005

              #126
              Originally posted by KCKUKFan

              The facts prove otherwise. Rick thrives with guys who are a little less heralded. He's a master at coaching guys up and creating cohesive teams with one or two excellent players and a bunch of glue guys. Even when he was at Kentucky. Aside from a Mashburn/Walker/Mercer here and there, he never recruited the very best NBA-ready, five star talent.

              And when he's tried the one-and-done approach at Louisville, it's been a disaster.

              You could argue that he would've won more titles so far than Cal, but I don't think that's the case. As a matter of fact, I think it would've been a minor disaster. Rick, especially in his current state, is not equipped to deal with these freshmen phenoms.
              Rick's final two years at Kentucky, he was on the verge of getting whoever he wanted when he wanted, his bailed out at his peak. If you give Rick a superstar or two as his one/two option with very good role players, he's very good......
              Last edited by J.Jennings; 04-24-2017, 11:12 AM.

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              • DA#23
                Administrator
                • Oct 2014
                • 7342

                #127

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                • J.Jennings
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 7005

                  #128
                  Originally posted by teamchemistry15
                  We can't have Cal here as a recruiter and hire someone else as a coach. It doesn't work like that. The players come here for Cal not for Kentucky. Without him we don't get all of the players we have had so arguing another coach would've won more with the same players isn't worth the argument. It's all hypothetical.
                  This is true,, can't have our cake and eat it too.

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                  • BJD
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 454

                    #129
                    Originally posted by J.Jennings


                    I would love to see Rick Pitino able to coach all the talent that Cal gets, one time.....

                    That's as real and as honest as i can be about it. Rick can't recruit in todays modern game at Louisville the way Cal can at Kentucky but that dude knows how to get a team playing based on it's strengths and weakness....

                    Yall can hate Rick, you can discredit anything he ever did at Kentucky, i don't care. All is know, the man can Coach and if he was able to recruit like Cal, i absolutely would not want to face him or Billy Donovan, to be perfectly honest......
                    Cal is a better coach than Pitino. Pitino is 2-8 against Cal since Cal has been here.

                    But, go back further. Cal beat our '96 team. You think Cal had more talent then?

                    I took this from another poster. I think he is right on the money:


                    "UKsketball is what it is. We are a layover stop for elite NBA prospects. We have a sprinkling of 3 and 4 year players...but not many.

                    I accept this. CAL has proven that we will contend each and every year regardless of roster youth. Hopefully, Hami performs well in his evaluations. If he doesn't, or is deemed to not be ready, I hope he comes to UK and gives 100% in working to improve his game.

                    I miss the years where players were on campus for 3 years. But, that's just not college basketball at the elite level. It won't change anytime soon."

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                    • BJD
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 454

                      #130
                      Originally posted by J.Jennings

                      This is true,, can't have our cake and eat it too.
                      We have the best recruiter and the best coach. Doesn't get any better than that.

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                      • TrueblueCATfan
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 16272

                        #131
                        OFF SUBJECT BUT ....Bam Has hired a agent...will not be coming back

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                        • BJD
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 454

                          #132
                          Originally posted by TrueblueCATfan
                          OFF SUBJECT BUT ....Bam Has hired a agent...will not be coming back
                          I saw that. But it's water is wet news. Bam has been gone. He was never coming back.

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                          • J.Jennings
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 7005

                            #133
                            Originally posted by BJD

                            Cal is a better coach than Pitino. Pitino is 2-8 against Cal since Cal has been here.

                            But, go back further. Cal beat our '96 team. You think Cal had more talent then?

                            I took this from another poster. I think he is right on the money:


                            "UKsketball is what it is. We are a layover stop for elite NBA prospects. We have a sprinkling of 3 and 4 year players...but not many.

                            I accept this. CAL has proven that we will contend each and every year regardless of roster youth. Hopefully, Hami performs well in his evaluations. If he doesn't, or is deemed to not be ready, I hope he comes to UK and gives 100% in working to improve his game.

                            I miss the years where players were on campus for 3 years. But, that's just not college basketball at the elite level. It won't change anytime soon."
                            Rick hasn't had near the talent at Louisville as Cas has had but that another story.

                            In 96, Cal had great player in Camby surrounded by good role players, that first meeting was early in the season and the new D1 kids for Kentucky were still getting adjusted to college ball.

                            Anyways, i agree, it is what it is, NBA layover school.

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                            • J.Jennings
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 7005

                              #134
                              The real winner in all of this, our very own FRIENDSOFCOAL, he called all this spot on a few months ago. He's right, Diallo used us and after a couple of practices, Cal goes bragging on him and now he's in the draft 99% gone in my opinion..,,

                              What a waste of time and all the hype for nothing. I bet there are some folks in Lexington who want a refund.................

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                              • KCKUKFan
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 14228

                                #135
                                Originally posted by J.Jennings
                                and now he's in the draft 99% gone in my opinion..,,
                                What information do you have to come to that opinion?

                                I know that you're trying to find any and all reason to be more negative than the situation merits, but still. This is sort've ridiculous.

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