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  • DA#23
    Administrator
    • Oct 2014
    • 7342

    #376
    Originally posted by Will Lavender

    I really think somebody will build a championship team out of the transfer market.
    They should go ahead and rename it to be more accurate: Free Agency

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    • JFCats22
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 4210

      #377
      It's WAY too early for next season rankings but of course they are being put out there. Not a lot of expectations so far for next year's UK team.

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      • Dwight Schrute
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 18716

        #378
        Originally posted by Will Lavender

        I don't know if I agree with this. It depends on those transfers and how good they are. If you recall, Texas Tech also made the title game a couple years ago and they had a bunch of transfers.

        Also next year is going to be way different. There are going to be so many players out there available. In most years you'll have four, maybe five big-time transfers. This year there are going to maybe be triple digits.

        I really think somebody will build a championship team out of the transfer market.
        Sure, I understand the transfer market is here to stay. But Cal's strategy has been recruit one and dones and put a team together, which worked until it didn't. If his strategy is to just substitute those with transfer one and done players, that's just the same situation we're in.

        Someone may build a championship team out of the transfer market, but I bet it will be a team that spends a year or two together. I really think Baylor is the way of the future and the way forward. And my fear is that Cal won't be able to help himself and will keep recruiting over people instead of giving them time to develop.

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        • Joneslab
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 39604

          #379
          This is why I'd love to have Jackson back. Having an all-SEC guy coming back as the glue along with Mintz, Toppin, Ware, and Tshiebwe who was with the team late would be a good deal of experience..for Cal.

          Otherwise it will be about having the requisite talent and the guardplay to do it. Who he signs at the point guard position will be the big question now.

          Because Cal has built championship contenders out of freshmen. I'm sure he could do it with transfers in this environment, where so many good transfers will be available. The bigger issue for me is point guard. Cal has proven that when he has disastrous teams, it begins with having very sketchy point guards.

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          • Joneslab
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 39604

            #380
            Originally posted by JFCats22
            It's WAY too early for next season rankings but of course they are being put out there. Not a lot of expectations so far for next year's UK team.
            Nobody knows who's going to even be playing for UK. Not sure how anybody could go about ranking us right now.

            I hope the ranking ends up being modest though when it comes out. I like UK with a chip on its shoulder.

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            • lilproUK98
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 2472

              #381
              Originally posted by JFCats22
              It's WAY too early for next season rankings but of course they are being put out there. Not a lot of expectations so far for next year's UK team.
              Kentucky is the 6th favorite at 18-1 to win the Title...

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              • lilproUK98
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2014
                • 2472

                #382
                MJ says a text he got says Marcus Carr will be at UK by next Tuesday. This texter has been very accurate. TIFWIW

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                • JFCats22
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 4210

                  #383
                  Gary Parrish ( who I can't stand) had a great point today. He went back 18 (I think) NCAA title winners and showed how every single one had at least one guy who could have/should have/was thought to be going pro that returned instead. UK is losing guys it shouldn't lose and certainly not retuning anyone who could leave and until they do I think it's going to be tough to get back to the top.

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                  • DA#23
                    Administrator
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 7342

                    #384
                    ^ Yes

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                    • lilproUK98
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 2472

                      #385
                      Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

                      Sure, I understand the transfer market is here to stay. But Cal's strategy has been recruit one and dones and put a team together, which worked until it didn't. If his strategy is to just substitute those with transfer one and done players, that's just the same situation we're in.

                      Someone may build a championship team out of the transfer market, but I bet it will be a team that spends a year or two together. I really think Baylor is the way of the future and the way forward. And my fear is that Cal won't be able to help himself and will keep recruiting over people instead of giving them time to develop.
                      Except it's not because they are experienced proven players that are hungry to do more. Not sure why people are so skeptical of the transfer deal and "free agency".... it's bizarre.

                      Getting a few great freshmen and pairing them with experienced transfers where needed to go along with 3-4 returnees is the perfect recipe for what CBB is now.

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                      • DA#23
                        Administrator
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 7342

                        #386
                        3-4 returnees isn't the normal for UK the last few years.

                        Scrambling to assemble a roster in the off season has become the normal for this program. We don't return players, we no longer land the truly elite recruits, and team chemistry is something that might develop by conference play.

                        Not only would Terrence Jones not return to UK after a freshman year now, he'd probably not commit in the first place.

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                        • Joneslab
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 39604

                          #387
                          Originally posted by matt colvin
                          3-4 returnees isn't the normal for UK the last few years.

                          Scrambling to assemble a roster in the off season has become the normal for this program. We don't return players, we no longer land the truly elite recruits, and team chemistry is something that might develop by conference play.

                          Not only would Terrence Jones not return to UK after a freshman year now, he'd probably not commit in the first place.
                          I don't disagree.

                          But I will put in that Isaiah Jackson is an elite player (doubt he returns). We also have a couple of possibilities for elite on the transfer circuit. Tshiebwe is probably not elite, but there was talk about him leaving after his solid freshman year so he kind of is in that boat that Gary Parrish mentions. Marcus Carr I think is potentially elite. Some guys are not elite but then they turn 22, 23 and magical things happen to them. Baylor as somebody else said was led by a guy who once committed to Presbyterian.

                          Not trying to sell anybody on Calipari at this point, but I want to stress what a monumental break we got with COVID in the context of this program right now.

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                          • Dwight Schrute
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 18716

                            #388
                            Originally posted by lilproUK98

                            Except it's not because they are experienced proven players that are hungry to do more.
                            LOL. Okay.

                            I don't doubt that they are hungry to do more, I am skeptical that it works out, period.

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                            • DA#23
                              Administrator
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 7342

                              #389
                              Originally posted by Will Lavender

                              Not trying to sell anybody on Calipari at this point, but I want to stress what a monumental break we got with COVID in the context of this program right now.
                              Immediately eligible transfers probably will be a huge blessing, but moving forward the same hole remains in the middle of the road and we continue driving through it.

                              We have to figure out how to retain some players and we must target recruits that actually see value in this staff...not just the Kentucky Experience.

                              I think that means an addition to the staff and more accurate early evaluation of recruits.

                              Just my opinion and I understand fully that it won't happen with this staff.

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                              • DA#23
                                Administrator
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 7342

                                #390
                                Originally posted by lilproUK98

                                Except it's not because they are experienced proven players that are hungry to do more. Not sure why people are so skeptical of the transfer deal and "free agency".... it's bizarre.
                                They want exposure. There's nothing wrong with that, either, but the main thing is that they want exposure. The Kentucky Effect.

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