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The Official Olivier Sarr Thread (UPDATE: NCAA Rules Sarr Eligible, SEC Hasn't Yet)

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  • Matt Dillon
    Administrator
    • Oct 2014
    • 49618

    #121
    I'm not sure what, if anything, the other decisions mean where Sarr is concerned. Unless I'm mistaken, none of their situations were like his.
    Philippians 4:11-4:13

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    • George
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 10355

      #122
      Originally posted by Matt Dillon
      I'm not sure what, if anything, the other decisions mean where Sarr is concerned. Unless I'm mistaken, none of their situations were like his.
      Just that they might convey some newfound leniency on the NCAA’s part under our current circumstances.

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      • Lighthouse
        Gone But Never Forgotten
        • Oct 2014
        • 35962

        #123
        I sure hope they clear him to play, but I won't get the hope's to high until they do.
        John 3:3

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        • J.Jennings
          Banned
          • Oct 2014
          • 7005

          #124
          What about the shot blocker from OSU?

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          • George
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 10355

            #125
            Sarr's chances of getting his waiver approved may have just taken a serious hit: https://kentuckysportsradio.com/bask...ter-nba-draft/.

            He may opt to explore the NBA route now, anyway.

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            • Dwight Schrute
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 18716

              #126
              That sucks...hopefully the NCAA is planning to grant waivers to whoever wants one.

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              • Catsrock
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 5560

                #127
                If Sarr's dream is to take this opportunity to go pro then best of luck to him. But he decided to leave Wake 7 weeks ago and chose UK six weeks ago. That's been his plan for 6 weeks of one of the toughest times in most of our memories in this country. If he still wants to be a Cat the NCAA has no place to tell him "no that was the basis of your waiver application--you either go pro or you're inelligble." They're showing a human side in other cases. Olivier should get similar treatment.

                He may well go ahead and enter the draft anyway but this is an opportunity for the NCAA to actually be "for the student athlete" as they always claim.

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                • Los Gatos
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 1692

                  #128
                  Originally posted by Catsrock
                  If Sarr's dream is to take this opportunity to go pro then best of luck to him. But he decided to leave Wake 7 weeks ago and chose UK six weeks ago. That's been his plan for 6 weeks of one of the toughest times in most of our memories in this country. If he still wants to be a Cat the NCAA has no place to tell him "no that was the basis of your waiver application--you either go pro or you're inelligble." They're showing a human side in other cases. Olivier should get similar treatment.

                  He may well go ahead and enter the draft anyway but this is an opportunity for the NCAA to actually be "for the student athlete" as they always claim.
                  Sorry, I disagree. The NCAA comes under persistent criticism for being inconsistent. To grant Sarr a waiver when he doesn't meet the current guidelines would be very inconsistent.

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                  • Catsrock
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 5560

                    #129
                    Originally posted by Los Gatos

                    Sorry, I disagree. The NCAA comes under persistent criticism for being inconsistent. To grant Sarr a waiver when he doesn't meet the current guidelines would be very inconsistent.
                    No need for sorrow. Just difference of opinion. But what guidelines have you determined he doesn't meet?

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                    • Los Gatos
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 1692

                      #130
                      Originally posted by Catsrock

                      No need for sorrow. Just difference of opinion. But what guidelines have you determined he doesn't meet?
                      Here are the guidelines as they were revised prior to the Fields/Martell waivers. I don't see any basis for the first quideline.
                      -The transfer is due to documented mitigating circumstances that are outside the student-athlete’s control and directly impact the health, safety and well-being of the student-athlete
                      -At the time of transfer to the certifying institution, the student-athlete would have been athletically and academically eligible and in good standing on the team had he or she remained at the previous institution;
                      -The certifying institution must certify that the student-athlete meets percentage-of degree requirements
                      -The previous institution’s athletics administration does not oppose the transfer.

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                      • justford
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 4669

                        #131
                        Will Cal encourage him to test the waters??

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                        • Catsrock
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 5560

                          #132
                          Originally posted by Los Gatos

                          Here are the guidelines as they were revised prior to the Fields/Martell waivers. I don't see any basis for the first quideline.
                          -The transfer is due to documented mitigating circumstances that are outside the student athlete’s control and directly impact the health, safety and well-being of the student-athlete
                          -At the time of transfer to the certifying institution, the student-athlete would have been athletically and academically eligible and in good standing on the team had he or she remained at the previous institution;
                          -The certifying institution must certify that the student-athlete meets percentage-of degree requirements
                          -The previous institution’s athletics administration does not oppose the transfer.

                          The well-being of the student athlete is what gives the NCAA the leeway to rule whatever they want in each case. J Juzang likely would be better isolated from the coronavirus in KY than in Los Angeles. But his well-being allows him to be closer to home. IF they want they can clearly rule it's in Sarr's best interest to go forward with the plan he made a couple months ago before the NBA changed things again.

                          In the end it probably won't matter. He probably wants to take this opportunity to get rich. But the NCAA always leaves themselves the wiggle room to rule whatever they want.

                          Thank you for posting the NCAA's guidelines. I don't know that I had read that--had just heard generalizations of what they were looking for. Actually that's all the guidelines offer though. I suspect virtually ZERO transfer applicants are risking their safety, health AND well being by staying at their original school and lots of waivers have been granted.

                          The other 3 stipulations are basically automatic unless the original school wants to make things difficult for him/her. If Sarr had stayed at Wake like they begged him they certainly weren't going to declare him academically inelligible.
                          Last edited by Catsrock; 06-21-2020, 10:48 AM.

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                          • JFCats22
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 4210

                            #133
                            This change is terrible news for UK’s chances at getting him the waiver. I don’t see anyway that Saar qualifies for a waiver now.

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                            • George
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 10355

                              #134
                              Even if he qualifies, it’s hard to see him sticking with college.

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                              • Dwight Schrute
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 18716

                                #135
                                Originally posted by JFCats22
                                This change is terrible news for UK’s chances at getting him the waiver. I don’t see anyway that Saar qualifies for a waiver now.
                                Of course you don't.

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