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  • TrueblueCATfan
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 16268

    #286
    Originally posted by Lighthouse
    I heard tonight, the new AD at UL will be Bill Cosby.

    LMAO......

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    • Lighthouse
      Gone But Never Forgotten
      • Oct 2014
      • 35962

      #287
      Just an observation and thought. UL's athletic department is very tight lipped about this situation they are in. The decision to not allow Pitino to go to the ACC meeting, and not take questions from the fans during his radio show sure makes me think there are 2 possible reasons why. Either Pitino is a big baby that doesn't want to take tough questions, or there is truth to the allegations and they are afraid he might say something wrong.
      John 3:3

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      • Matt Dillon
        Administrator
        • Oct 2014
        • 49610

        #288
        Or both...
        Philippians 4:11-4:13

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        • Joneslab
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 39604

          #289
          I think it's common procedure when an investigation is going on for the attorney to put a gag order on his client. Given Pitino's penchant for turning fifteen-second soundbites into ten-minute tirades against the media and culture and the world at large, I'd say they didn't want him to go down to media day and just lose his mind.

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          • Wonderstruck
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 962

            #290
            Good to see President Ramsey doing all he can to make sure he and his university show as much discretion as possible during this time so as to stay out of the news.

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            • Lighthouse
              Gone But Never Forgotten
              • Oct 2014
              • 35962

              #291
              Originally posted by Will Lavender
              I think it's common procedure when an investigation is going on for the attorney to put a gag order on his client. Given Pitino's penchant for turning fifteen-second soundbites into ten-minute tirades against the media and culture and the world at large, I'd say they didn't want him to go down to media day and just lose his mind.
              While I don't disagree, I wonder why Pitino is different from other coaches who had issues. I don't remember Williams or the coach from Syracuse missing media day. It casts a shadow of guilt on the whole situation IMO. I remember some about the scandal at UK when the money issue came out, but can't recall if Sutton had a gag order.
              John 3:3

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              • Joneslab
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 39604

                #292
                Meanwhile at UofL students have organized against the university president and the Commonwealth's Attorney has started issuing subpoenas.

                Otherwise, everything's fine.

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                • JFCats22
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 4210

                  #293
                  Originally posted by Will Lavender
                  Meanwhile at UofL students have organized against the university president and the Commonwealth's Attorney has started issuing subpoenas.

                  Otherwise, everything's fine.

                  Uh oh...may be some trouble brewing. I believe the CW Attorney is a UL undergrad and law school alumni though

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                  • Uncle Dave
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 1979

                    #294
                    ""Meanwhile at UofL students have organized against the university president".

                    Why?

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                    • Joneslab
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 39604

                      #295
                      Originally posted by JFCats22


                      Uh oh...may be some trouble brewing. I believe the CW Attorney is a UL undergrad and law school alumni though
                      The grand jury will want them to reveal their sources and hand over all the information used in the book.

                      Likely Powell and the publisher will plead that they are protected under the First Amendment, and then a judge will likely have to step in and rule. Could take awhile.

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                      • JFCats22
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 4210

                        #296
                        Originally posted by Will Lavender

                        The grand jury will want them to reveal their sources and hand over all the information used in the book.

                        Likely Powell and the publisher will plead that they are protected under the First Amendment, and then a judge will likely have to step in and rule. Could take awhile.

                        I read that so far Powell and the publisher are the only ones subpoenaed. That would be unbelievable if true. How they could get away with not giving anyone from UL a subpoena would be mind blowingly crazy.

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                        • Joneslab
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 39604

                          #297
                          Originally posted by JFCats22


                          I read that so far Powell and the publisher are the only ones subpoenaed. That would be unbelievable if true. How they could get away with not giving anyone from UL a subpoena would be mind blowingly crazy.
                          Might be because the burden of proof is on her. Once a grand jury has the evidence--her journal, phone records, etc.--then they can subpoena others.

                          I'm not really sure how it works, nor am I really sure that the charges are that heinous. It all sounds terrible, but really prostitution is just a slap on the wrist. They might be looking at some other stuff, but I'd say the grand jury is just trying to get a feel for what kinds of evidence they have and who's involved.

                          Will likely mean little for the NCAA investigation. That's still going to go poorly for UofL because IMO the NCAA will want to set an example with this. Some people have said that it will look like what SMU got, but IMO it'll be worse than that. Probably between Penn St. and Syracuse. The NCAA will try to use this as a model punishment for other schools, and they'll do a similar thing with UNC.

                          (Assuming the UofL stuff is true, and I think the fundamentals of it are.)

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                          • thughes
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 3526

                            #298
                            Originally posted by Will Lavender

                            The grand jury will want them to reveal their sources and hand over all the information used in the book.

                            Likely Powell and the publisher will plead that they are protected under the First Amendment, and then a judge will likely have to step in and rule. Could take awhile.

                            Here is how this works. Once the Grand Jury has issued you a subpoena, you have to appear before that grand jury. Once under oath there are only two things you can do, testify as to what you know or plead the 5th. If you plea the 5th the grand jury can vote to give you either partial immunity or full immunity as to what they are investigating.

                            Now once they have granted you immunity that is it. You must testify and tell all. You can no longer claim the 5th. If you refuse to testify that is contempt of the grand jury and you go to jail until you decide to talk.

                            Grand juries have a time limit to be seated. If the grand jury reaches the time limit and has to disband then you get out of jail. But once the next grand jury is seated, they drag you back and it starts all over again.

                            No judge has the power to break up a grand jury. They are the most powerful investigative body with that power to issue immunity.

                            This is the quick and dirty of the process.

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                            • Los Gatos
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 1690

                              #299
                              Hey, thanks for the explanation.

                              Another question, can a grand jury in Kentucky subpoena a resident of another state and thus force them to testify in Kentucky?

                              Seems unfair that an individual in Hawaii (for example) would be force to incur the expense of a trip to Ky at the whim of a KY grand jury.

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                              • TrueblueCATfan
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 16268

                                #300
                                Originally posted by matt colvin
                                TBCF needs to set up the next The Door . Say a week beforehand...seriously


                                TBCF is just fine.....sitting back and just watching it all play out.....my dirty friends sure have been quiet

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