As I understand it, everyone employed by UK could be innocent but there could still be a problem. Miller and/or Dawkins could have approached some of UK's players and/or their families and paid them to let them represent the players when their college careers are over. This might be unknown to UK, but the players would still be ineligible.
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I doubt if anything will come from Dawkins w/r/t UK. He was working with Adidas schools.
The only player from UK that I'm aware of who signed with Andy Miller is Nerlens Noel. There were strange stories about Noel before he committed to UK. Seems like one of them involved his mother getting a job or a car or something back when he was in high school.Comment
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If everyone was paying players but agreed to the voluntary rules set down by the NCAA, then everyone is cheating. Pretty simple. Doesn't make it right. Just means the schools need to convince the NCAA to adjust the rules that ALL MEMBER INSTITUTIONS volunteered to live under.
If everyone wanted to stipend players then I'm all or it. But UK, UL, DUKE and everyone else signed on to work under the discretion of a governing body.Comment
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I don't think it exist for any school who has recruited and signed more than a few top level players. Just too much dirty business going on to get those players. I guess we will see soon. My guess is that FBI will drop the hammer at NCAA tournament time. That would hurt the NCAA the most at the basketball pinnacle of year.Kentucky fan since 1971.Comment
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Well I hope the FBI is not into sensationalism by timing it during the tourney. They've already been accused by the president for spending resources on the wrong stuff.
Good thing our last title was 2012 huh? That must have been before schools started cheating.
The end result of this may be expedition if the end of the NCAA as the programs that drive the bus form something new with their own rules. That was likely coming anyway.Comment
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Oops, check that: I just ran a search using the terms "ASM Sports" and "Kentucky" and found that Marquis Teague actually signed with Andy Miller.
Also found an article that drops the name of Matt Ramker, who was one of Andy Miller's co-agents, that mentions Kevin Knox in a general way.
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Unless last night's report is exaggerated, I find it increasingly hard to believe that we aren't going to get caught up in this.Comment
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But I also agree with you re: "cheating." The NCAA may (and probably will) define cheating as anything that violates a rule; I, on the other hand, look at it more as a means of gaining an advantage over the field.
Like you said, if the entire field is guilty, then I have a hard time seeing any advantage earned by Kentucky.Comment
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Yeah, but what constitutes "the entire field"? It's certainly not 30, 40 schools. 64+ compete in the NCAA tourney. There are hundreds of D1 programs in numerous conferences. The top X number of programs are cheating in order to maintain that position above the mid-majors and teams trying to enter that circle.Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.
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Except Kentucky, Duke, Louisville, etc aren't really competing against the Xaviers or the Butler's of the world. We're competing against Duke, Louisville, Kansas, etc. I'm not condoning the actions (though players getting paid doesn't bother me one bit), merely saying that if it's done to keep up with other schools, it's not cheating as much as just violating the rules.
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If cheating were simply defined as gaining an advantage, then UofL wouldn't have lost their banner and forfeited all those games. What advantage is derived from mediocre hookers and strippers? Especially when it yielded zero recruits?Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.
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