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  • Jeff ROCKober
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 420

    #166
    Hurley leaves Rhode Island and will be head coach at UConn.

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    • J.Jennings
      Banned
      • Oct 2014
      • 7005

      #167
      Originally posted by Will Lavender
      Evansville has hired former Cat Walter McCarty as its head coach.
      He has played and worked under some very good teachers in his career, interesting to see the style of play he decides to play. I assume he will leave the Celtics soon and begin a new journey, at least basketball has made him a good living, the music career wasn't working out for him.
      Last edited by J.Jennings; 03-22-2018, 01:04 PM.

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      • Lighthouse
        Gone But Never Forgotten
        • Oct 2014
        • 35962

        #168
        I saw where Evansville was considering McCarty and glad he got the job. I had no idea of his experience.
        John 3:3

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        • Dwight Schrute
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 18716

          #169
          Originally posted by Will Lavender

          This is the weird thing. I've heard people say, "Well, at least there will no pressure." With as much as these guys make these days, there's always pressure. There was significant pressure on David Padgett. If they pay 7 million a year to Mack, there's going to be enormous pressure--even if the roster is depleted.

          It could be though that he's reached the end of his run at Xavier. That was a veteran team that's also going to have to go through a bit of a re-build (but nothing like Louisville's) of their own. He may think the long-term pay-off will be better in the ACC than at Xavier. But I do think it'll be long-term. They won't compete in the upper half of that league for at least five years IMO, and this is assuming there aren't any more sanctions.
          Financially it will be. Xavier is the cradle of coaches for a reason. It has the tools in place to succeed there but you outgrow it quickly.

          Obviously Louisville's gonna go through some hard times in the coming years, but if he can get the fans to be patient, he'll have the opportunity to do very well there. Louisville is absolutely one of the best jobs in America once you get outside of the Kentucky/Duke/UNC/Kansas realm. It's right there in that second tier.

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          • Dwight Schrute
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 18716

            #170
            Paul Daugherty is kind of a Cincinnati area homer, but this is a good read on Xavier vs Louisville.

            The pay raise would be significant, but Mack doesn’t strike me as a money guy, either for material or ego reasons. Xavier will fend off the Louisvilles of the world as best it can, financially. Mack’s current deal runs through the 2022-23 season.

            And he’s from here, which around here means more than most places.

            Is Louisville that much better of a job than Xavier?

            It’s not. Certainly not for a few years, while the Feds are still on the job and the probation is in effect.

            https://www.cincinnati.com/story/spo...lle/448660002/

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            • SBCatMan
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 1765

              #171
              For those who are predicting a LONG term rebuilding process at UofL, I would remind you that this is not football. A basketball program can turn around on a dime. I.am NOT saying that is what will happen, but it COULD. All it takes is the right guy and one good recruiting class.

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              • Dwight Schrute
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 18716

                #172
                Originally posted by SBCatMan
                For those who are predicting a LONG term rebuilding process at UofL, I would remind you that this is not football. A basketball program can turn around on a dime. I.am NOT saying that is what will happen, but it COULD. All it takes is the right guy and one good recruiting class.
                Yeah, but the unknown is the effects of probation and the FBI investigation.

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                • Joneslab
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 39604

                  #173
                  Originally posted by SBCatMan
                  For those who are predicting a LONG term rebuilding process at UofL, I would remind you that this is not football. A basketball program can turn around on a dime. I.am NOT saying that is what will happen, but it COULD. All it takes is the right guy and one good recruiting class.
                  Good point. One player can turn around a basketball program.

                  I still think, mainly because of the conference they're in and how recruiting has dried up so quickly, that this is not going to be easy. I think UofL fans are hanging their hats on the fact that Mack is going to be a Calipari-type coach in terms of how quickly he can turn the program around. Cal was able to do what he did here on the back of a legendary recruiting class. That isn't Chris Mack.

                  I still believe he'd be a very good hire.

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                  • teamchemistry15
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 7022

                    #174
                    Whoever the coach is at UofL will struggle for a few years. How long do you give him if you're a fan? They currently have zero commitments for next year and are losing two starters two graduation and I wouldn't be surprised if Spalding and Adel left. What then? What do you expect a coach to do for a school with seven scholarship players and who knows what coming as far as probations? I certainly don't think you get $7 million worth. IMO they should've kept Padgett until they were in the clear of everything.

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                    • J.Jennings
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 7005

                      #175
                      Originally posted by SBCatMan
                      For those who are predicting a LONG term rebuilding process at UofL, I would remind you that this is not football. A basketball program can turn around on a dime. I.am NOT saying that is what will happen, but it COULD. All it takes is the right guy and one good recruiting class.
                      You see that is the difference between Kentucky and Louisville, Louisville went 27 years without a title and now that title doesn' even count. Let's be honest, at Kentucky we just don't want a good program, we want a team that can play for a title each and every year, i doubt Louisville will ever be that, never.Even with the best possible rebuild, where does that leave Louisville in the long run? The best possible coach out there for Louisville WAS Pitino so i understand why Louisville fans are still in a state of denial over all of this. Louisville had a real good thing going and now that Rick is gone, the next coach has to deal with all the off the court stuff coming in andhe also has to fill Pitino's shoes, going to be hard in my opinion....

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                      • J.Jennings
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 7005

                        #176
                        Originally posted by teamchemistry15
                        Whoever the coach is at UofL will struggle for a few years. How long do you give him if you're a fan? They currently have zero commitments for next year and are losing two starters two graduation and I wouldn't be surprised if Spalding and Adel left. What then? What do you expect a coach to do for a school with seven scholarship players and who knows what coming as far as probations? I certainly don't think you get $7 million worth. IMO they should've kept Padgett until they were in the clear of everything.
                        They will never be happy, who's going to fill Rick shoes. Even though Tubby was given a Championship team on a platter his first year, how many years did it take us Kentucky fans to get over Rick, hell some of them actually became Louisville fans.....

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                        • J.Jennings
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 7005

                          #177
                          Originally posted by Will Lavender

                          Good point. One player can turn around a basketball program.

                          I still think, mainly because of the conference they're in and how recruiting has dried up so quickly, that this is not going to be easy. I think UofL fans are hanging their hats on the fact that Mack is going to be a Calipari-type coach in terms of how quickly he can turn the program around. Cal was able to do what he did here on the back of a legendary recruiting class. That isn't Chris Mack.

                          I still believe he'd be a very good hire.
                          But if you are that ONE player, you going to Kentucky or Louisville or Duke, Kansas, Carolina, Ucla? Some of these kids prefer the sunshine in Florida or on the west coast. You have Smart in Texas, Oregon, i expect Uconn and even Syracuse to be players again at some point in time. Look at Indiana and the history there and after it all went south, they still haven't made it back...

                          One thing i see trending over the past few years with top talents who gamble and go to schools like Texas, Okalahoma, andeven Arizona, they are missing out on playing for all the marbles.Kentucky and Duke pretty much gives you the best chance to go pro and play for a Championship....
                          Last edited by J.Jennings; 03-22-2018, 02:29 PM.

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                          • J.Jennings
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 7005

                            #178
                            Originally posted by Will Lavender

                            Good point. One player can turn around a basketball program.

                            I still think, mainly because of the conference they're in and how recruiting has dried up so quickly, that this is not going to be easy. I think UofL fans are hanging their hats on the fact that Mack is going to be a Calipari-type coach in terms of how quickly he can turn the program around. Cal was able to do what he did here on the back of a legendary recruiting class. That isn't Chris Mack.

                            I still believe he'd be a very good hire.
                            Georgetown Hoyas think Mac McClung is the second coming of Allen Iverson, Rex Chapman, Hunter McClintock, and Jimmer Fredette all wrapped up into one, we shall see lol lol lol lol

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                            • catfaninin
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 2016

                              #179
                              Originally posted by J.Jennings

                              They will never be happy, who's going to fill Rick shoes. Even though Tubby was given a Championship team on a platter his first year, how many years did it take us Kentucky fans to get over Rick, hell some of them actually became Louisville fans.....
                              I am always amazed when I read something like this. That 98 team was a good team, but it's certainly not like they were a lock to win anything. They didn't have much in the way of NBA players, Muhammed & Magloire? Sheppard is my favorite player ever but he wasn't a pro. Heck it took a Cameron Mills basket to save the season. I don't aim to start the Tubby Smith debate again. But to say he was given that championship is just crazy.

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                              • J.Jennings
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 7005

                                #180
                                Originally posted by catfaninin

                                I am always amazed when I read something like this. That 98 team was a good team, but it's certainly not like they were a lock to win anything. They didn't have much in the way of NBA players, Muhammed & Magloire? Sheppard is my favorite player ever but he wasn't a pro. Heck it took a Cameron Mills basket to save the season. I don't aim to start the Tubby Smith debate again. But to say he was given that championship is just crazy.
                                Did you forget about Padgett, he played in the NBA many years.I give Tubby credit, he was a great game manager that year and he didn't try to reinvent to wheel with that team, one hell of a job against Duke down 17 with 9 to go..Still that team was built mentally and physicall from the ground up on how Pitino had developed that bunch and the way we played. To say that team didn't play Rick ball is crazy, why didn't Tubby continue to play that style the rest of his years at Kentucky when it actually won him a Championship?

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