The Official Last Movie You Saw Thread (Part 2)

[Joneslab]

Parks and Rec Season 1 is a strange outlier. I think it's easily the weakest season, but it strangely lays the groundwork for all that comes after so you have to watch it to get the brilliance of the rest of the show. I can't tell you how many people I've recommended the show to and they'll tell me they didn't watch past S1.

I put it in the top four sitcoms I've ever seen with Frasier first, then Seinfeld, and then Cheers.

[Joneslab]

I put The Office around something like Friends.

Very good, at times shockingly good, but not brilliant except in short little bursts.

I think P&R Seasons 2-4 were genius all the way through.

[KCKUKFan]

I think P&R Seasons 2-4 were genius all the way through.

They were, but I'd say The Office seasons 2-4 were even better.

The difference is that seasons 5-7 of PandR were consistently fine, if not great, while seasons 5-9 of The Office were inconsistent at best, awful at worst.

[Joneslab]

Suicide Squad is apparently a bust of epic proportions, another in a growing line of misses by DC.

The formula for making these things doesn't seem to be that hard. Not sure why Marvel can nail it while DC has so much trouble.

[Spiritof96]

Suicide Squad is apparently a bust of epic proportions, another in a growing line of misses by DC.

The formula for making these things doesn't seem to be that hard. Not sure why Marvel can nail it while DC has so much trouble.

DC and by extension WB fundamentally dislikes their source material. DC's movie making shop is as screwed up as their editorial team for the comic, plus WB is notorious for interfering in the production of their high dollar franchises. Even a competent director and production crew have difficulty functioning under the mountain of "notes" they receive from an army of executives contradicting one another.

Marvel studios has problems from time to time; but they are fundamentally different in their organization and process than DC/WB.

This can't be as bad as Superman v. Batman....

[Joneslab]

SS is getting much worse reviews.

I have to have seen some tremendous reviews to pay to see these movies. I just don't like them very much by and large unless they're spectacular. The three Nolan movies, Unbreakable, Guardians of the Galaxy--that's probably the five excellent superhero movies I've seen. I've watched a couple more that I liked, but I forget about them almost instantaneously.

I just have never understood the American obsession with them. That said, I've never read a single comic book so I'm really not in the wheelhouse.

[Blue Heaven]

I was never a comic book reader either. It seems that everyone forgets how good the first two Tobey Maquire Spiderman movies were. Spiderman 2 is still one of the best.

[Joneslab]

I think comic book movies fulfill a lot of fantasies for middle-aged men. You see guys walking around with t-shirts and these toy collections and so on. I've a relative who has a whole roomful of toys still in the box. He could talk for hours about the Marvel metaverse. He's 42.

I like it. I like anything that's a movement. It's one reason I like UK sports. Everybody should have a hobby, and these guys throw themselves into it the way we do with UK.

The movies themselves are generally not something I would pick if I had a choice, but you usually don't on these weekends superhero flicks come out.

[KCKUKFan]

I don't get the obsession with superhero movies, either. The fact that our cineplexes have been inundated with them doesn't help matters.

Shame to see "Suicide Squad" get such lousy reviews, since I was interested to see this one, because it seemed a little more edgy than most. There's a number of reasons that DC/Warner Bros. seem to get these things so wrong (Nolan "Batman" movies aside), and it's because Warner Bros. can't help but interfering.

It's not like David Ayer became a bad filmmaker overnight. His last two films, "Fury" and "End Of Watch" were both excellent. Apparently, WB came through and hired the company that cut the SS trailer to re-cut THE MOVIE. Jared Leto has gone on record as saying that the majority of his scenes as The Joker ended up on the cutting room floor. Why... would... you... cut... out... the... Joker?

My guess is that when it hits BluRay we'll see another "Extended Director's Cut" of SS. It improved "Batman v Superman" immensely (although that film still had a lot of problems). SS might just not be very good, no matter how long it is, but WB interfering with Ayer's vision certainly didn't help.

[Spiritof96]

SS is getting much worse reviews.

I have to have seen some tremendous reviews to pay to see these movies. I just don't like them very much by and large unless they're spectacular. The three Nolan movies, Unbreakable, Guardians of the Galaxy--that's probably the five excellent superhero movies I've seen. I've watched a couple more that I liked, but I forget about them almost instantaneously.

I just have never understood the American obsession with them. That said, I've never read a single comic book so I'm really not in the wheelhouse.

I grew up on comic books and while I don't read them these days, I like the characters of my youth. Every decade of my adult life, something comes along and injects some renewed interests and keeps me going.

Part of the obsession, I think is that the audience who liked the comics and cartoons over the years is FAR larger than would have been admitted to 20 years ago. The stigma has gone away and that type of fantasy fiction has picked of steam.

[George]

I don't get the obsession with superhero movies, either. The fact that our cineplexes have been inundated with them doesn't help matters.

Shame to see "Suicide Squad" get such lousy reviews, since I was interested to see this one, because it seemed a little more edgy than most. There's a number of reasons that DC/Warner Bros. seem to get these things so wrong (Nolan "Batman" movies aside), and it's because Warner Bros. can't help but interfering.

It's not like David Ayer became a bad filmmaker overnight. His last two films, "Fury" and "End Of Watch" were both excellent. Apparently, WB came through and hired the company that cut the SS trailer to re-cut THE MOVIE. Jared Leto has gone on record as saying that the majority of his scenes as The Joker ended up on the cutting room floor. Why... would... you... cut... out... the... Joker?

My guess is that when it hits BluRay we'll see another "Extended Director's Cut" of SS. It improved "Batman v Superman" immensely (although that film still had a lot of problems). SS might just not be very good, no matter how long it is, but WB interfering with Ayer's vision certainly didn't help.

The smarter decision would have been to cut this version of The Joker all together. He's an absolute embarrassment to the character.

[Blue Heaven]

Tbe outcry for SS, is that the villains aren't "villiany" enough. One review says it is like a roll call of the baddies. You get these little couple minute intro nto their character, then it's onto the next guy. Seems like a glorified Con Air. That movie is one of the worst I have ever seen. I will wait for it to come out on Showbox or Kodi.

[KCKUKFan]

The smarter decision would have been to cut this version of The Joker all together. He's an absolute embarrassment to the character.

Have you seen the movie? I've heard he's one of the bright spots, although he only has about 15 minutes of screen time.

[Joneslab]

Tbe outcry for SS, is that the villains aren't "villiany" enough. One review says it is like a roll call of the baddies. You get these little couple minute intro nto their character, then it's onto the next guy. Seems like a glorified Con Air. That movie is one of the worst I have ever seen. I will wait for it to come out on Showbox or Kodi.

The filmmakers probably thought giving the roll call was the only way to introduce viewers to some of these unfamiliar characters.

But Guardians of the Galaxy had the same issue. I'd never even heard of it before I saw the preview. But the way those filmmakers did it was to basically introduce their characters through narrative. You knew who all those characters were 15 minutes into that thing and didn't need the bloated prologue that SS apparently has.

[George]

Have you seen the movie? I've heard he's one of the bright spots, although he only has about 15 minutes of screen time.

Yeah, I saw it. He's god awful. Don't waste your time with this one. Not even worth a rental.