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  • DA#23
    Administrator
    • Oct 2014
    • 7342

    #1051
    ^ The situation probably didn’t create the best recruiting visit ever, though. Even if the staff was telling him Livingston was gone (duh) I have to think it wasn’t the most solid vibes he experienced on a recruiting trip .

    (Oh, and I don’t ever use the term “vibes” so I’m going to count that as yet another thing to blame on Cal)

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    • George
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 10355

      #1052
      Originally posted by matt colvin
      (Oh, and I don’t ever use the term “vibes” so I’m going to count that as yet another thing to blame on Cal)
      Mellow out, brah.

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      • Lighthouse
        Gone But Never Forgotten
        • Oct 2014
        • 35962

        #1053
        Originally posted by Will Lavender

        Of course that shouldn't be the case with Reeves.

        How we can't convince him to come back is arguably the most shocking thing I've seen in the Calipari era. It's truly crazy and of all the stuff that's happened, that one is proof positive that something is bad wrong.
        And the wrong you're referring to is Cal and his relationship with his players. At least that's what it appears to be. He can't entice players to return, and other than the incoming freshmen, can't recruit. How he stays here knowing what a mess he's made, is beyond me.
        John 3:3

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        • justford
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 4669

          #1054
          If I’m a player being recruited by UK and knowing how bad they need me/players, I am going to ask for some astronomical NIL money.

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          • Joneslab
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 39604

            #1055
            Originally posted by Lighthouse

            And the wrong you're referring to is Cal and his relationship with his players. At least that's what it appears to be. He can't entice players to return, and other than the incoming freshmen, can't recruit. How he stays here knowing what a mess he's made, is beyond me.
            He got Oscar to come. He got Reeves to come last year. He got Kellan Grady to come. He got Jacob Toppin to come. He got Nate Sestina to come. He got Reid Travis to come. Back in the day he enticed Josh Harrelson to stay. He got Darnell Dodson to come.

            It's weird that this team crumbled apart on him the way it did. Suggests either the makeup of this team was really bad in the locker room or something about Cal has changed with the way he relates to players--or both.

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            • Joneslab
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 39604

              #1056
              ^ Also, as discussed, one difference is this freshmen class. I think they've...occluded (choosing my words carefully there) what's happened with the returning players.

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              • KCKUKFan
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2014
                • 14228

                #1057
                In good news, Rob Dillingham has arrived on campus.

                See, nothing to worry about. Right? Right?

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                • SCBlu
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 1016

                  #1058
                  Originally posted by Will Lavender
                  ^ Also, as discussed, one difference is this freshmen class. I think they've...occluded (choosing my words carefully there) what's happened with the returning players.
                  LESSON FOR TODAY........

                  Occlude:
                  • 1. Stop, close up, or obstruct (an opening, orifice, or passage):"thick makeup can occlude the pores"
                  • 2. Hide or obscure from prominence or view: "Voices are completely occluded from participating in the debate"

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                  • DA#23
                    Administrator
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 7342

                    #1059
                    Originally posted by KCKUKFan
                    In good news, Rob Dillingham has arrived on campus.
                    Sweet!

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                    • Lighthouse
                      Gone But Never Forgotten
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 35962

                      #1060
                      Originally posted by Will Lavender

                      He got Oscar to come. He got Reeves to come last year. He got Kellan Grady to come. He got Jacob Toppin to come. He got Nate Sestina to come. He got Reid Travis to come. Back in the day he enticed Josh Harrelson to stay. He got Darnell Dodson to come.

                      It's weird that this team crumbled apart on him the way it did. Suggests either the makeup of this team was really bad in the locker room or something about Cal has changed with the way he relates to players--or both.
                      I realize he has brought players here. What I'm talking about is lately. This year we had several transfer and he has had a couple on campus this hear who would have made a huge difference and couldn't keep them. That could have been for reasons out of his control. Whoever was paying Oscars NIL money could possible be able to get Reeves back. I don't know, I'm just frustrated with this whole situation.

                      It seems to me that folks are saying on one post that Cal isn't cuttin it, and the next post, he is. SMH.
                      John 3:3

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                      • Catsrock
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 5560

                        #1061
                        No wishy washy from me. This upcoming season has been the “target year” for several seasons. That is to say I’ve tolerated Cal’s roster building crap every summer because this year was to get us back to his early days at UK (because of a highly rated legacy kid and others who want to play with him). At this point I expect very little from the upcoming season. Would love to be wrong, but imagine we’ll have some glaring holes and not make any meaningful postseason run. Hopefully Cal will move on at season’s end—whether they surprise me/us or not. Hoping we have enough players to practice is NOT fun.

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                        • GOCAT15
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 2019

                          #1062
                          Originally posted by Catsrock
                          No wishy washy from me. This upcoming season has been the “target year” for several seasons. That is to say I’ve tolerated Cal’s roster building crap every summer because this year was to get us back to his early days at UK (because of a highly rated legacy kid and others who want to play with him). At this point I expect very little from the upcoming season. Would love to be wrong, but imagine we’ll have some glaring holes and not make any meaningful postseason run. Hopefully Cal will move on at season’s end—whether they surprise me/us or not. Hoping we have enough players to practice is NOT fun.
                          Great point.

                          I feel that every time we all go depressed about how the program was going we just kept saying "but just wait until 2023". Well here we are and unless something magical happens it's really going to be a letdown.

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                          • KCKUKFan
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 14228

                            #1063
                            Originally posted by Lighthouse

                            It seems to me that folks are saying on one post that Cal isn't cuttin it, and the next post, he is. SMH.
                            I think what people are saying is that Cal isn't cutting it, but the roster debacle is not entirely his fault.

                            Two things can be true at once.

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                            • largebluej
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2016
                              • 420

                              #1064
                              Originally posted by Will Lavender

                              It was I, the one who was called "optimistic" three weeks ago.
                              You wordsmith, you....

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                              • Joneslab
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 39604

                                #1065
                                Originally posted by Lighthouse


                                It seems to me that folks are saying on one post that Cal isn't cuttin it, and the next post, he is. SMH.
                                Not sure what others' feelings are. Mine are that what's happening now is something different than we've seen from Cal during his time at UK. Just throwing it in a boat with "Cal has sucked for years" doesn't really answer what's happening now.

                                HOWEVER, I will say that we have been moving toward something like this for quite awhile. I think there are reasons it's as bad as it is--most on Cal, some not--but I did make a post four or five years on here that had a title with something like, "We Can't Keep Building Rosters Like This."

                                When the recruiting pipeline starts to dry up you can't just keep leaning on the old tricks. Cal didn't adapt. So yeah, that's part of why we're here.

                                It doesn't get at the whole shebang, though.

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