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  • Catsrock
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 5562

    #241
    Originally posted by Dwight Schrute
    FWIW, I have no issues with Stoops going for two at the end. We had no business being in that game, and playing to win it and coming up short is something I can live with.
    I agree although its more common to play for overtime. Basically it comes down to what you think your odds of picking up 3 yds on one play are. You figure with overtime its basically 50-50 before the coin toss. First team with the ball has an advantage but before you choose whether to go for 2 or play for overtime you don't know who will win the toss. Plus you have to hit your PAT 1st and that's assumed but isn't 100%. So at the time Stoops decided to go for 2 he just surmised he had better than 50% chance of success and it didn't pan out.

    Post 188 said now you have no chance, in OT you would have had a chance. That's pretty easy call after the unsuccessful attempt but moments before--when the decision was being made--we certainly had a chance of success on the play.

    Not saying it was the right call, but it wasn't a stupid call.

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    • Dwight Schrute
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 18716

      #242
      Originally posted by Catsrock

      I agree although its more common to play for overtime. Basically it comes down to what you think your odds of picking up 3 yds on one play are. You figure with overtime its basically 50-50 before the coin toss. First team with the ball has an advantage but before you choose whether to go for 2 or play for overtime you don't know who will win the toss. Plus you have to hit your PAT 1st and that's assumed but isn't 100%. So at the time Stoops decided to go for 2 he just surmised he had better than 50% chance of success and it didn't pan out.

      Post 188 said now you have no chance, in OT you would have had a chance. That's pretty easy call after the unsuccessful attempt but moments before--when the decision was being made--we certainly had a chance of success on the play.

      Not saying it was the right call, but it wasn't a stupid call.
      Yeah but without your best running back and a hurt quarterback, and an inability to stop their offense, I get the Stoops calculation. Cats had momentum and just couldn’t wrangle it in.
      Last edited by Dwight Schrute; 12-30-2017, 10:41 AM.

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      • Dwight Schrute
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 18716

        #243
        Originally posted by KCKUKFan

        Speaking of roofing businesses, that moron got in an embarrassing in-game tiff with Shaka Smart last night. Massive eye roll.
        I saw. Between the bad officiating, a new baby, and other priorities, sports just haven’t captured my interest like in the past.

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        • SCBlu
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 1016

          #244
          Originally posted by johnkyblue

          Dumbest post EVER. I've made a LOT of them and that's the worst EVER.
          WRONG!
          5 personal foul calls in 1st half
          Bowden not set on 4th and 1 down
          Baitey's 15 yd unnecessary roughness call
          Coach Stoops 15 yd penalty after S Johnson tackle
          EQUALS UNDISCIPLINED!

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          • Lighthouse
            Gone But Never Forgotten
            • Oct 2014
            • 35962

            #245
            Originally posted by teamchemistry15

            I said after that call it seemed like the infamous trade off call we hear about in basketball. The referee realized he shouldn't have tossed Snell so tossed their star linebacker when he was given the chance. It wasn't even close to a target.
            I just knew someone would post this thought, I'm just sorry it was you. This was not a make up call, and for more reasons than one. First, the referee didn't throw both flags, he just explained the call and by rule they were both correct. However, the call on Snell was a knee jerk reaction and should have been an unsportsmanship only foul. The targeting was just a bad call, but by another official.
            John 3:3

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            • teamchemistry15
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 7022

              #246
              Originally posted by Lighthouse

              I just knew someone would post this thought, I'm just sorry it was you. This was not a make up call, and for more reasons than one. First, the referee didn't throw both flags, he just explained the call and by rule they were both correct. However, the call on Snell was a knee jerk reaction and should have been an unsportsmanship only foul. The targeting was just a bad call, but by another official.
              I don't remember there actually being a flag thrown initially when their linebacker got ejected. For some reason I remember us being in the middle of getting lined up and getting a play in when the referee blew the whistle to review the play. If there wasn't a penalty called initially, wouldn't it have been the head referee (who tossed Snell) getting the buzz to review the last play for targeting?

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              • teamchemistry15
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 7022

                #247
                Originally posted by Lighthouse

                I just knew someone would post this thought, I'm just sorry it was you. This was not a make up call, and for more reasons than one. First, the referee didn't throw both flags, he just explained the call and by rule they were both correct. However, the call on Snell was a knee jerk reaction and should have been an unsportsmanship only foul. The targeting was just a bad call, but by another official.
                And, sorry it was me because you're disappointed in my opinion or sorry that you had to tell me I'm wrong? 😛

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                • Lighthouse
                  Gone But Never Forgotten
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 35962

                  #248
                  Originally posted by teamchemistry15

                  And, sorry it was me because you're disappointed in my opinion or sorry that you had to tell me I'm wrong? 😛
                  Didn't mean to say you're wrong, but as a retired official I detest any reference to a make up call.
                  John 3:3

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                  • Matt Dillon
                    Administrator
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 49624

                    #249
                    I have a very surreal feeling today. This is the most contented I can ever remember being after a loss. I'm very close to feeling how I usually feel after a win.
                    Philippians 4:11-4:13

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                    • johnkyblue
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 4418

                      #250
                      I think I read the lips of the NW coach saying, "two wrongs don't make a right".

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                      • Lighthouse
                        Gone But Never Forgotten
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 35962

                        #251
                        Originally posted by teamchemistry15

                        I don't remember there actually being a flag thrown initially when their linebacker got ejected. For some reason I remember us being in the middle of getting lined up and getting a play in when the referee blew the whistle to review the play. If there wasn't a penalty called initially, wouldn't it have been the head referee (who tossed Snell) getting the buzz to review the last play for targeting?
                        I don't know if there was an initial flag. If not, the replay official made the call, which he can do. All the officials have receivers and get the buzz from the booth.
                        John 3:3

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                        • johnkyblue
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 4418

                          #252
                          Originally posted by Lighthouse
                          . The targeting was just a bad call, but by another official.
                          It was by the booth.

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                          • Lighthouse
                            Gone But Never Forgotten
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 35962

                            #253
                            Originally posted by johnkyblue
                            It was by the booth.
                            That's what I said.
                            John 3:3

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                            • Spiritof96
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 13503

                              #254
                              Originally posted by Matt Dillon
                              I have a very surreal feeling today. This is the most contented I can ever remember being after a loss. I'm very close to feeling how I usually feel after a win.
                              I feel exactly the same way. I’m pretty happy despite the loss. No heartbreak here.
                              Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                              ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                              Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                              No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                              RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                              • 40bill
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 8451

                                #255
                                Originally posted by Matt Dillon
                                I have a very surreal feeling today. This is the most contented I can ever remember being after a loss. I'm very close to feeling how I usually feel after a win.
                                I feel the same way. I can't complain about anything the team or coaches did or tried. Just missed on a capping off play. Nobody on the UK side has anything to hang their heads about.

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