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  • UK90
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2025
    • 13

    #136
    Originally posted by KentuckyWild2020

    4. Jon Hood Senior year. Finally towards the end he started getting some clock and was solid in spot minutes.
    Wrong. Hood barely touched the floor his senior year. He only got in 13 games and only at garbage time. Hell, we had walk ons (see Polson) that got more minutes than him that year.

    The only season when Hood got anything close to significant minutes was his junior year (the NIT season) and the results were ugly.

    Julius Mays might’ve been physically limited, but he was still a far better player than Hood ever was.

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    • KentuckyWild2020
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2020
      • 4120

      #137
      Originally posted by UK90
      Wrong. Hood barely touched the floor his senior year. He only got in 13 games and only at garbage time. Hell, we had walk ons (see Polson) that got more minutes than him that year.

      The only season when Hood got anything close to significant minutes was his junior year (the NIT season) and the results were ugly.

      Julius Mays might’ve been physically limited, but he was still a far better player than Hood ever was.
      My bad,Junior year,after that he wasn't playing, loaded stacked roster.

      Back to Mays, advise you go watch Hood vs Bledsoe prior to Kentucky. Hood may have not panned out but 6'6 better wingspan decent athlete beats a 6'1 hobbling overweight midget 6 days a week twice on Sunday.

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      • true blue1
        Junior Member
        • Jul 2025
        • 33

        #138
        Anyone that would put Goodwin in that category has no knowledge at all about basketball! The kid played his butt off!

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        • blueheretic
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2025
          • 569

          #139
          Marvin Stone
          "I am the punishment of God. If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you."

          Genghis Khan

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          • KYNomad
            Member
            • Jul 2025
            • 51

            #140
            Originally posted by true blue1
            Anyone that would put Goodwin in that category has no knowledge at all about basketball! The kid played his butt off!
            I just didn’t like him. I understand that he was in a difficult position. I just didn’t like the way he carried himself and maybe that was out of frustration. There’s a reason I said least favorite instead of worst. I didn’t like Rondo either.

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            • SportsFan
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2025
              • 206

              #141
              Originally posted by UK90
              The only season when Hood got anything close to significant minutes was his junior year (the NIT season) and the results were ugly.
              I'm not arguing that Hood was better than Mays, because he wasn't. Mays was better.

              I'm only going to point out that statistically, the results when Hood played limited minutes his junior year were not "ugly".

              Jon Hood (Jr. year stats)

              G - 23
              MP - 6.3
              FG -0.6
              FGA - 1.1
              FG% - .500
              3P - 0.3
              3PA - 0.7
              3P% - .400
              2P - 0.3
              2PA- 0.5
              2P% -.636
              eFG% - .615
              FT - 0.1
              FTA - 0.1
              FT% - 1.000
              ORB -0.3
              DRB -0.9
              TRB 1.2
              AST - 0.1
              STL - 0.3
              BLK - 0.0
              TOV - 0.1
              PF - 0.6
              PTS - 1.5

              50% FG, 40% 3PT, and 100% FT shooting are actually very respectable shooting percentages.

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              • Joneslab
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 39604

                #142
                Not sure there's enough there with Hood to tell us much of anything, but it would've taken about four Jon Hoods and probably another Julius Mays to help that particular team after Nerlens. They were a shell.

                With Nerlens I thought they could've at least made the tournament. I do remember a game at Ole Miss that season that was very fun, and a late-season game against Florida where I thought they played well.

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                • DA#23
                  Administrator
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 7342

                  #143
                  With Nerlens staying healthy they would have limped into the NCAA tournament .

                  However, if Harrow had panned out they might have been pretty decent. He was very disappointing.

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                  • SportsFan
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2025
                    • 206

                    #144
                    Originally posted by matt colvin
                    With Nerlens staying healthy they would have limped into the NCAA tournament .

                    However, if Harrow had panned out they might have been pretty decent. He was very disappointing.
                    Ya know, I wondered if there was a reason why Cal either relied on or was so high on Harrow (who I agree with you, wasn't very good)....so I checked ESPN's high school rankings for 2012. Other than Kris Dunn (just inside the top 25, at 23) and Terry Rozier (just inside the top 75, at 73)...I really don't remember any of those point guards!!! That was a ridiculously weak point guard class!!! So I guess, in a way, Cal was doing good to get a transfer like Harrow who had starting experience and I'm sure people viewed as having upside....it just didn't pan out.

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                    • DA#23
                      Administrator
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 7342

                      #145
                      Interesting angle, SportsFan.

                      Harrow was in the class of Kyrie Irving, Brandon Knight, and Josh Selby. He was the #4 pg iirc

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                      • SportsFan
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2025
                        • 206

                        #146
                        Originally posted by Joneslab
                        Not sure there's enough there with Hood to tell us much of anything, but it would've taken about four Jon Hoods and probably another Julius Mays to help that particular team after Nerlens. They were a shell.

                        With Nerlens I thought they could've at least made the tournament. I do remember a game at Ole Miss that season that was very fun, and a late-season game against Florida where I thought they played well.
                        I didn't think it mattered if Nerlens had stayed healthy...that was a bad team. I think they very well may have missed the tournament anyway. Actually, Nerlens injury probably did us a favor and prepared us for the ultimate disappointment ahead of time

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                        • SportsFan
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2025
                          • 206

                          #147
                          Originally posted by matt colvin
                          Interesting angle, SportsFan.

                          Harrow was in the class of Kyrie Irving, Brandon Knight, and Josh Selby. He was the #4 pg iirc
                          There really needs to be a 😧(shocked) emoji... because that would have been my reaction to see that he was THAT high!!!

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                          • Joneslab
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 39604

                            #148
                            There was an article that came out last year where the writer spoke to a point guard (can't remember exactly who) and the guy said he watched video of great point guards to make himself better...and Harrow was one he mentioned.

                            Harrow's issues here were mental. Not sure if he could've ever been an elite player or anything, but he had a breakdown when he was here. He's one guy I feel really sorry for when I think back on players of the past. Dusty Mills is another.

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                            • DA#23
                              Administrator
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 7342

                              #149
                              Originally posted by SportsFan

                              There really needs to be a 😧(shocked) emoji... because that would have been my reaction to see that he was THAT high!!!
                              Well, I just looked at ESPN and I was wrong. He was ranked #39 but the eighth PG in that class.

                              LINK

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                              • SportsFan
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2025
                                • 206

                                #150
                                Originally posted by matt colvin

                                Well, I just looked at ESPN and I was wrong. He was ranked #39 but the eighth PG in that class.

                                LINK
                                That sounds more like it.

                                To say the 2011 Point Guard class was better than 2012 would be a huge understatement. In 2012 there was only 3 PGs ranked in the top 33 (with the # 1 being ranked #22), and you have to get to # 53 before you reach the #8 ranked PG. And, like I said, Dunn and Rozier look to be the best of a relatively weak class. There's certainly no Kyrie Irving, Brandon Knight or Josh Shelby in that class.

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