The Coronavirus and College Basketball's Postseason

[Lighthouse]

I am ER now, he finally went go sleep. We are waiting on test for flu rsv but both ears look to be infected. Thankfully temperature has gone down, last place I wanted to be..

Praying for your little one JJ. And for you and your wife.

[Lighthouse]

Folks, I'm 77 years old, diabetic, have severe neuropathy in my feet, 3rd stage kidney disease and had my aortic valve replaced and the only thing I'm doing different is washing my hands more often, using the gel and not shaking hands. That's the same things I did 11 years ago when the swine flu was going to eliminate humanity.

[Catgrad7072]

Chalking this up as double ear infection.

Yikes! I had a single ear infection several years ago. Felt like I had a pencil jammed in my ear-really painful. I would have considered it a good deal if you'd offered to shoot me.

Hope your son feels better.

[teamchemistry15]

Folks, I'm 77 years old, diabetic, have severe neuropathy in my feet, 3rd stage kidney disease and had my aortic valve replaced and the only thing I'm doing different is washing my hands more often, using the gel and not shaking hands. That's the same things I did 11 years ago when the swine flu was going to eliminate humanity.

I listened to a podcast today with a guy who has studied infectious diseases for a career. His take was that everyone was wrong. Those that are panicking and buying all the water and toilet paper are wrong and those saying it's no big deal are wrong. He said the best things to do to protect yourself are eat a decent diet, exercise, stay hydrated, get plenty of sleep, and wash your hands. He said if you're over 55 and smoke, have asthma, are obese, have high blood pressure, etc that you need to avoid large crowds. Other than that, it will run its course and last another few months and we will all go on as normal. But, in general people are overreacting.

I saw a flow chart today and it was beaking down the differences in symptoms of seasonal allergies, the flu, and the corona virus. If you have to compare and contrast the symptoms with seasonal allergies it's not nearly as bad as the media is making it seem.

[DA#23]

Ok, so unfortunately I wasn’t wrong. Nice

[Joneslab]

This is not a hoax but I feel it's an over reaction led mostly by the media and politics. I don't believe Trump was president at the time.

It may be an overreaction. I'm not a disease expert so I'm not sure.

I doubt it has anything to do with politics. Most of the people giving these recommendations are nonpartisan. Many are not even American. They're disease experts.

Some of these people are working inside the Trump administration. His disease expert is giving many of the same recommendations.

I just don't think this has anything to do with that. That said, this may be an over-reaction...but the problem with knowing whether it is or not in this country comes back to the lack of tests. Obviously we weren't really prepared for that, so there are obviously thousands in America who have it; we just don't know they have it.

[Joneslab]

^ I'd be more inclined to buy the "government control" theory if several countries around the world hadn't done the same thing.

This appears to be a protocol that world health agencies put into place after the last disease outbreak. Essentially a series of items on a checklist.

Really don't think the government is trying to control us.

[Dwight Schrute]

If the self-distancing and self-quarantining is effective, this will look like a major non-event. The reason this looks like a giant overreaction right now is because nobody can get tested.

The Ohio CDC estimates that 1% of Ohioans have it, which is 117,000 people. This has likely been spreading among us for a couple weeks now, it’s just that we’ve been unable to test for whatever reason*.

*Im happy to discuss those reasons in depth in the political forum.

[Uncle Dave]

Seattle schools closed through April.

[Spiritof96]

For the panicked:

CDC Brief

CDC Protect yourself

CDC How does it spread

That second one is LOL. They may as well say jack shpit.

The last one is icky and about the least enlightening thing you will every hear.

[Joneslab]

Anyways,I wonder how many people really have this or who have had it and beat it already but didn't even know?

It seems like this is exactly the issue right here.

This is the thing the "we're overreacting" crowd is missing, I think.

We have tested at a really low level so far because we don't have an adequate number of tests. The Utah Jazz and OKC Thunder can get tested. People with severe symptoms can get tested. The rest of us not so much.

As Dwight said, this is why they're trying to "flatten the curve"--because it's assumed there are hundreds of thousands more cases than have been reported.

[KCKUKFan]

Two weeks ago, I had a wicked chest cold with a low grade fever. Coughing fire, headaches, chills. It lasted for about a week. I tested negative for flu, but didnt get tested for corona.

Part of me wonders...

[teamchemistry15]

It may be an overreaction. I'm not a disease expert so I'm not sure.

I doubt it has anything to do with politics. Most of the people giving these recommendations are nonpartisan. Many are not even American. They're disease experts.

Some of these people are working inside the Trump administration. His disease expert is giving many of the same recommendations.

I just don't think this has anything to do with that. That said, this may be an over-reaction...but the problem with knowing whether it is or not in this country comes back to the lack of tests. Obviously we weren't really prepared for that, so there are obviously thousands in America who have it; we just don't know they have it.

There's a lot that we shoot ourselves in the foot with when it comes to being unprepared. A while back when the hurricane hit Puerto Rico we had an extreme shortage of IV bags because 85% of the world's IV bags come from one building down there. Why set it up that way? It's the same situation going on now with a shortage of medicines because so many come from China. It's not a certain presidents fault, although quite a few are pointing fingers. Stuff like this has been going on for decades.

[teamchemistry15]

It seems like this is exactly the issue right here.

This is the thing the "we're overreacting" crowd is missing, I think.

We have tested at a really low level so far because we don't have an adequate number of tests. The Utah Jazz and OKC Thunder can get tested. People with severe symptoms can get tested. The rest of us not so much.

As Dwight said, this is why they're trying to "flatten the curve"--because it's assumed there are hundreds of thousands more cases than have been reported.

On the opposite side of your point, wouldn't the fact that there have probably been hundreds of thousands more cases than have been reported justify the reasoning for those saying we are overreacting? If it's a virus that is so mild the normal person can beat it with a few days rest and over the counter medicine (if that much was involved) then why shut down everything? To protect the small percentage of the population that could have a serious or deadly case? The thought has to be there that it would be better to say "If you're over 55 and have x conditions or habits you should probably stay home if at all possible because you're most likely to have a fatal case."

[Wamcat]

I don’t have a lot of equity on this board, but figured I weigh in just the same. Let me start by saying I don’t question the tactics being deployed to “flatten the curve”. I get it. It’s a virus that is dangerous for a segment of the population and life is precious and finite. We have to protect it or it ceases to exist.
That being said, I did some quick research today. According to the CDC they estimate 29 million people have had the flu this year, 200,000 have been hospitalized and there have been, gasp, 16,000 deaths.
I cannot imagine that following the same protocols that have been put into place, limiting mass gatherings, “social distancing” and canceling every type of enjoyable event known to mankind would not have a positive effect on those numbers as well. If that’s the case, what is the tipping point that caused Coronavirus to be handled differently and why have we not put the same protocols in place for the flu???
Say what you want, but something just doesn’t feel right about all the fuss made over this when far more people have been impacted by the flu and the same measures were not taken to get out in front of it. If we are willing to accept this as the new norm, there will be no more sports and no more entertainment. Guess I better get used to staying at home.