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WHO IS STAYING? (ANSWER: Green, Richards, Washington, Baker)

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  • J.Jennings
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    • Oct 2014
    • 7005

    #241
    Landing Montgomery and Hagans along with what we already have committed sure makes all this not so bad. Let's just hope THIS GROUP can gel early and become dominate.....

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    • Joneslab
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 39604

      #242
      Originally posted by J.Jennings

      If you can't show Cal what you got in 2 years, i don't think he wants you here to be honest. He is used to elite talent and i don't think he has the time for good college players non pro material unless he absolutely has to. He has made it clear that he's playing his freshman above and beyond all no matter what the cost, it's how he sells them to Kentucky and he sticks to his word.....
      There's really no evidence that what you're saying here is true.

      I think what Cal wants is what the players want, so he usually steps back. If he had his druthers they'd all be Anthony Davis.

      But that's just not feasible in the real world. In reality you get a lot of players who are on different timelines, or who are just role players. Cal knows the deal. He was around two other programs where he had a bunch of those guys, and he's had a few at UK.

      I'm sure Cal knows how important players like Liggins and Miller and Doron Lamb and Josh Harrellson and Alex Poythress and Dominique Hawkins were to the program. Those weren't NBA superstars but they were incredibly valuable. They won huge games for us.

      I don't think he's happy to see players like Wenyen Gabriel go. Wenyen has been really good at times and can get even better. If he does leave I don't think Cal's attitude will be, "I didn't want him anyway." That doesn't make any sense.

      I just don't think Cal spends a ton of time trying to talk people into coming back to school because he isn't that kind of coach.

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      • BobS
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 1291

        #243
        Matt Jones said today that it is a fact that Green is considering a transfer. So there’s that.

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        • TrueblueCATfan
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 16273

          #244
          Originally posted by Lighthouse

          That's almost exactly what JJ said, but I disagree. How many of us would do anything to help not only our family, but most anyone who needs help. Gabriel is a decent player and wants to use his talent to improve the lives of those he loves. I hope he stays, but their needs might make his decision difficult.
          Well I certainly want these kids to do what is best for them.....just don't think either one is ready for the NBA yet....this is MY opinion....I would love to see Wenyen come back for another year
          Last edited by TrueblueCATfan; 04-10-2018, 01:01 PM.

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          • KevinHall
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 6857

            #245
            Originally posted by BobS
            Matt Jones said today that it is a fact that Green is considering a transfer. So there’s that.
            Will the last one to leave please just leave the lights on for next revolving door of players? Thank you.
            Kentucky fan since 1971.

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            • J.Jennings
              Banned
              • Oct 2014
              • 7005

              #246
              Originally posted by Will Lavender

              There's really no evidence that what you're saying here is true.

              I think what Cal wants is what the players want, so he usually steps back. If he had his druthers they'd all be Anthony Davis.

              But that's just not feasible in the real world. In reality you get a lot of players who are on different timelines, or who are just role players. Cal knows the deal. He was around two other programs where he had a bunch of those guys, and he's had a few at UK.

              I'm sure Cal knows how important players like Liggins and Miller and Doron Lamb and Josh Harrellson and Alex Poythress and Dominique Hawkins were to the program. Those weren't NBA superstars but they were incredibly valuable. They won huge games for us.

              I don't think he's happy to see players like Wenyen Gabriel go. Wenyen has been really good at times and can get even better. If he does leave I don't think Cal's attitude will be, "I didn't want him anyway." That doesn't make any sense.

              I just don't think Cal spends a ton of time trying to talk people into coming back to school because he isn't that kind of coach.
              You are right, i have no evidence, it's just pure speculation but still,sure doesn't seem like Cal is asking for more than two years. Maybe the better advice for Cal to give to some is to actually stay in school and get a degree because you may need it, not everyone is going to make a living playing pro basketball.

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              • Catsrock
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 5562

                #247
                Well some news is good, some is bad. Some is encouraging, some is discouraging. But its NEVER boring around UK basketball. What a ride.

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                • J.Jennings
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 7005

                  #248
                  Does anyone feel that Cal doesn't mind some walking because he has something else up his sleeve??

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                  • George
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 10355

                    #249
                    Originally posted by J.Jennings
                    Does anyone feel that Cal doesn't mind some walking because he has something else up his sleeve??
                    Actually, yes. Especially if rumors of an additional reclassification are true.

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                    • KCKUKFan
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 14228

                      #250
                      It sort've feels like Cal has set a reset button this offseason, in more ways than one.

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                      • Joneslab
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 39604

                        #251
                        Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

                        Actually, yes. Especially if rumors of an additional reclassification are true.
                        Yep. If you're going to bring in a guy like E.J. Montgomery and that means losing Sacha Killeya-Jones then fine.

                        If you're going to bring in Reid Travis and that means losing Wenyen Gabriel then fine.

                        As long as the players aren't kicked to the curb. As long as they have places to land. Then it kind of works out for everybody.

                        Because we get upgrades in that case.

                        The trouble comes in when there aren't upgrades. I.e. when you lose players and replace them with kids who are not ready to perform at a high level the day they step in here.

                        I'd obviously prefer if the roster stayed put, but if the players are intent on leaving as soon as they can, then the coach has to in turn look for talent to replenish the defections.

                        You can't just sit back if you're Cal and hope. You have to go out there and keep plugging away just in case.

                        All this said, I'm sure Cal would love to keep some of our current players as a foundation. For it to go really well next season we pretty much have to.

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                        • George
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 10355

                          #252
                          Originally posted by Will Lavender

                          You can't just sit back if you're Cal and hope. You have to go out there and keep plugging away just in case.

                          All this said, I'm sure Cal would love to keep some of our current players as a foundation. For it to go really well next season we pretty much have to.
                          This is true.

                          And Cal may have whiffed on his first couple attempts at wooing returners, but it's comforting to see that he's working other channels, and seems to be going hard at it.

                          It's pretty incredible what he's capable of when he's all in. Kind of makes you wonder if his recent perceived dip really was just a result of a little complacency.

                          Right now, the guy seems to be working like his life depends on it, and look how it's paying off.

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                          • Joneslab
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 39604

                            #253
                            Nick Richards will return to Kentucky.

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                            • George
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 10355

                              #254
                              Originally posted by Will Lavender
                              Nick Richards will return to Kentucky.
                              Jload's gonna lose it.

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                              • Joneslab
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 39604

                                #255
                                Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt
                                Right now, the guy seems to be working like his life depends on it, and look how it's paying off.
                                Cal is at his best when the world hates him and everybody's given up.

                                Things get a little wonky when he's coasting. Think this past Sweet Sixteen. Also: Wisconsin, up late. Zion Williamson, in the bag. Etc.

                                When it's Cal v. the world, that's when the magic tends to happen.

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