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  • Joneslab
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 39604

    #61
    Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

    I guess what I'm unclear on is why the FBI is involved. We've had these issues of schools paying players in college sports for decades. What's the difference? The scale on which it happened?
    There is a federal bribery statute I believe. I would imagine because they were transferring money across state lines and setting up meetings with the shoe rep and the player in different cities it became a federal case.

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    • Dwight Schrute
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 18716

      #62
      Originally posted by Will Lavender

      There is a federal bribery statute I believe. I would imagine because they were transferring money across state lines and setting up meetings with the shoe rep and the player in different cities it became a federal case.
      Sorry, not trying to be obtuse, I'm just unclear why the FBI is concerned with schools/shoe companies bribing players to come to a certain school when this is something that has gone on for decades.

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      • Spiritof96
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 13503

        #63
        Originally posted by Will Lavender
        Dan Wetzel‏Verified account @DanWetzel 32s32 seconds agoAny attempt to stop capitalism invites corruption.
        There is the quote of the century.

        Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
        ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
        Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
        No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
        RIP: Charlie Munger​

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        • lilproUK98
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 2472

          #64
          Also, I think we know why Cal has avoided some recruits and "missed" on some the last few yrs.......

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          • Dwight Schrute
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 18716

            #65
            Originally posted by lilproUK98
            Also, I think we know why Cal has avoided some recruits and "missed" on some the last few yrs.......
            I have noticed that recruiting has fallen off a bit.

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            • Joneslab
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 39604

              #66
              If Deandre Ayton is one of the recruits at Arizona then it blows open college basketball next year. Unfortunately it probably makes Duke a heavy favorite.

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              • UK8STL11
                Senior Member
                • May 2017
                • 696

                #67
                Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

                Sorry, not trying to be obtuse, I'm just unclear why the FBI is concerned with schools/shoe companies bribing players to come to a certain school when this is something that has gone on for decades.
                I assume there are multiple IRS/tax laws broken as well that the Federal government has an interest in.

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                • Spiritof96
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 13503

                  #68
                  How funny is it going to be, if we find out that Cal is, in fact, a FREAKING SHARK who is incredibly shrewd about steering clear of corruption in college basketball? That would certainly turn the narrative on its head.

                  My big concern is that as with PEDs in sports, no one at the top is really "clean".
                  Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                  ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                  Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                  No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                  RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                  • Joneslab
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 39604

                    #69
                    The FBI conducted the investigation completely on their own and didn't involve the NCAA whatsoever.

                    Fascinating and hilarious.

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                    • Lighthouse
                      Gone But Never Forgotten
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 35962

                      #70
                      Watched the news conference and I didn't hear UL mentioned, but they are a major Adidas school.
                      John 3:3

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                      • Joneslab
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 39604

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Lighthouse
                        Watched the news conference and I didn't hear UL mentioned, but they are a major Adidas school.
                        I don't think they named any school or even Adidas in the press conference?

                        They're referring to the document that's been made public as the "charging document." They redacted the schools' names for some reason.

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                        • Joneslab
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 39604

                          #72
                          They also have set up a tip line, which is where all kinds of craziness is bound to take place.

                          How many athletes over the years have been paid to sign with a school? That phone is going to be ringing constantly for months.

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                          • teamchemistry15
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 7022

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Lighthouse
                            Watched the news conference and I didn't hear UL mentioned, but they are a major Adidas school.
                            They haven't officially named Louisville. But, they said a school in Kentucky, with (for example because I don't remember the number) 23,487 students (the number in the article was the exact number of students at Louisville) who is already on probation, and received a high profile commitment from a top tier basketball player on or around June 3rd. I believe Bowen committed to them either the 3rd or 4th. Sources are saying Louisville but it hasn't been confirmed. Supposedly they have wire taps with conversations involving staff members and talks of Adidas reps agreeing to send $100,000 in four payments to the recruit's family.

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                            • Dwight Schrute
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 18716

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Will Lavender
                              How many athletes over the years have been paid to sign with a school?
                              This is at the core of why I still don't really understand why the FBI is involved.

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                              • Dwight Schrute
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 18716

                                #75
                                Originally posted by UK8STL11

                                I assume there are multiple IRS/tax laws broken as well that the Federal government has an interest in.
                                But that's not so much an FBI matter as an IRS matter. The IRS has their own enforcement division, I believe.

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