I don't disagree with anything you say and I sure don't enjoy the way this football team is playing, but I will not desert any Kentucky team for any reason. State how you feel and leave it be. It seems to me several are enjoying the way we're playing or at least enjoying whining about it. For crying out loud, we made it through the mess Mumme's staff left us, Eddie Sutton and Gillespie, and we'll make it through this also. We Are Kentucky!!
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Basketball is absolutely a cash cow.
It has nothing to do with anything really, and certainly not the discussion at hand, but you're talking about a pretty freakish money-maker comparatively.
The SEC TV deal is the fulcrum that everything pretty much swings on, and that's a football-powered deal. UK football reaps massive benefit from these big-time, football-dominant schools that were the reason that TV deal was made in the first place. Certainly nothing UK has ever done warrants it being a huge revenue-raker.
The great irony is that we would all be better off if UK got out of the SEC.
I'm not sure how the "minor" sports would fair, but UK being in this conference has really done nothing for the two money-making programs. It holds basketball down and it traditionally sinks football.Comment
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No, that is exactly what some fans are arguing, that MB and UK athletics don't care about football, go back and look in THIS THREAD. There is no logical proof pointing any reasonable person in that direction, but they continue to argue. Just like saying basketball brings in more money. Its not true, but they'll say it until you show them and then they'll say they don't care and move on.
If you want to argue that MB can't hire a decent football coach, well then carry on.
Some, I say some, might argue that MB doesn't have the 'pick of top coaches' that they appear to think he does.Comment
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Dr Singletary made the suggestion to move to the ACC to be competitive in football back in mid-70's (I recall 76-77 school year) but no one wanted to jeapordize the basketball program of not getting a yearly pass to the NCAA tourney by playing in a weak SEC. Two points here 1- we'd have been better off out of SEC in football and 2- it is all about basketball. (And please don't ask for a link to the Singletary fact. It was an unrecorded remark made at a board meeting in a day electronics did not dominate our lives. I was told this by 2 board members who observed this.)Comment
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I'm sick of hearing that we have to go back to work and correct it. There's no correcting this. It's the same ol' same ol' every single week. Boom Williams averages 5.5 YPC this week yet you give him the ball 12 times. It seems that any time Boom gets stuffed for no gain/loss/1 yard, Stoops/Eddie panics and takes the ball away from him. Use your weapons to help you succeed. It's getting to the point that I'm starting to sound like a broken record to give Boom the ball. The guy has to be one of, if not the MOST, underutilized weapons we've had here. After the travesty that was 96 rushing yards last week, what do we do? We come out on our first three plays and try slinging it. Against Cornerback U.
Man, I thought Eddie Gran turned TEs into stars. Well CJ Conrad has 2 targets in 2 games. Your tight end will not be a weapon on offense if he sees 12 targets in a season.
DJ Elliot. I'm just going to move on.
Brings me to Stoops. The guy is in over his head. He is not a good head coach. Coordinator maybe. The only adjustment Stoops makes in a ball game is when he takes his headset off after giving up an 8 yard run or seeing one of his guys get torched. He constantly looks lost. The only thing I think he really has a handle on is the recruiting, which I think he does as good as he possibly can here. But the prep? In game adjustments? Clock management? There are none. On the pregame, they asked JD Harmon about this Florida football team. He replied, "We haven't really watched film on Florida. We mainly focus on us. We know if we do our job then we will succeed." Wrong. Wrong. WRONG. You didn't watch game film? That's a fundamental aspect of coaching. FILM STUDY. And I'm not getting on JD. 100% on Stoops. Who have you beaten that you think ignoring game film is going to get you ahead in this league or ANY league?
Our team is soft and STILL disorganized. They don't have that toughness, that 1980s Miami U swag. I'm going to go back to the Tennessee game last year on Halloween, which I was at. During the pregame warmups, the differences between the 2 teams were night and day. KY players danced around, were laughing and just all around having a good time. Which is great if you're at a barbecue. Then I looked at Tennessee's warmups. And I knew we were outclassed that night. Tennessee's approach was militaristic. All the players were in sync. Ours lackadaisical nature never stood a chance. On the disorganized side, Stephen Johnson ran a read option tonight without a running back to hand the ball off to. We still have players that are late getting on and off the field.
This game pretty much showed me that it is all 100% coaching. Judging from similar opponents, Umass is a vastly better football team than we are. And I know our talent level is worlds above theirs. Western KY only lost by 28 to Bama. I bet we lose by 50.
Bottom line: STOOPS NEEDS TO GO.Comment
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Lighthouse, respectfully, I think it's unfair to criticize fans who talk about problems with the program, and particularly with the AD or coaches.
If you sincerely believe the AD or coach are bad for the program, and there is ample and mounting evidence that they are, it would be a disservice to the program to pretend otherwise. And it isn't fair or right to expect people to not speak candidly on here.
If you love people in your family, you praise them when they deserve it, and you talk about problems when they're there. You do them a disservice if you don't do it both ways. When they succeed at something or make you proud, you say so. But you also have to speak up when they're with someone who is no good for them, or not taking school seriously, or need to quit drinking, or need to quit indulging their kids, or it's time to take away the car keys, or any number of other things. Ignoring problems like that or not speaking about them isn't good for people you care about. Discussing problems - glaring, obvious problems that need to be remedied - doesn't mean that people aren't fans or don't care about the program. To the contrary: if they didn't care, they wouldn't take the time to pay attention or comment on it.Comment
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Could Gran be the Uzelac to Stoops Curry? Man I hoped not, as we have had glimmers of hope where Curry had none. We are on our 3rd O Coordinator in three of Stoops four seasons. You know, sometimes it's on the Coach. And that is what really sucks because I like Coach Stoops. Maybe he just isn't cut out to be a HC? We have had two tough games against two tough teams. Plenty time to turn it around but I just can't see it right now. We were penciled in as 1-1 at this point. Being 0-2, I can see why some have jumped ship. I am not there yet but am AWFULLY close.Isaiah 5:20Comment
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I'm not certain that the SEC TV money is included in the numbers I posted. The line item "operational revenue" is criptic. You recognize that Football nets twice what basketball nets right?
What our football team nets is paltry compared to the rest of the SEC. In 2011 while we were netting our ~15 mil Bama, FL, TN, Auburn, and SC were in the 35-45 million range.Originally posted by John Stuart MillRIP: Charlie Munger​Originally posted by Robert “Hoot†GibsonComment
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How would you feel right now if you'd dished out the cash for one of those fancy new rich person huts outside of Commonwealth?Comment
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Did we, though? Aside from a couple of solid (not great, solid) bowl years at the end of Brooks' run, did we really?
I love the University of Kentucky and the athletic program is very important to me, personally. Which is exactly the reason why I refuse to support this nonsense. I'm sick and tired of not being competitive in football, especially with all the money and resources poured into the program recently.
It would be one thing if we competed in these games, but we're not. We're not even showing up. It's pathetic, it's sickening, and if I'm expected to support the football team through thick and thin, all I ask is that I'm seeing a team that competes. We're not. Not even close.
And I need to vent about it; this is a better place to do it than any because my wife sure doesn't want to listen to me do it.
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I hear ya. My wife is a UT fan.Isaiah 5:20Comment
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