Game Thread: Kentucky versus Florida

[Blue Heaven]

Basketball often spends more than it brings in. Varsity football revenue pays for itself and EVERY other sport at UK. The information is publicly available.

Who really cares at this point? It's not bringing us wins so I could care less. And that's the bottom line. I would argue MOST UK fans feel the same way. You really think we care about who brings the most money? Just win baby!

[KCKUKFan]

dumpster fire.

nuke this pathetic football program from orbit. And nuke max godbys shame letter while you're at it.

[Spiritof96]

Who really cares at this point? It's not bringing us wins so I could care less. And that's the bottom line. I would argue MOST UK fans feel the same way. You really think we care about who brings the most money? Just win baby!

The fact of the money is irrelevant; other than to demonstrate my earlier point. The AD; President, UKAA, and board of trustees care about football. Gary Daniels is a loud mouth moron who doesn't know $#!^ from shinola about UK fan "culture". Stoops could not have more support given the history and product.

[KevinHall]

The ones I feel most sorry for are players like Kash, Landon and Drake who could have went to a high profile fb school. Instead, they're mired in this mess.

They can transfer. I couldn't blame them if they did.

I only saw 1st qtr and about 3 minutes of 2nd. You see right away Florida out classed them in talent at every position. UK had no shot in this one or most any other SEC game. Another lost season.

[KCKUKFan]

I would be nasty, but we have to be nice and can't be critical because it will offend certain posters.

[George]

They can transfer. I couldn't blame them if they did.

I only saw 1st qtr and about 3 minutes of 2nd. You see right away Florida out classed them in talent at every position. UK had no shot in this one or most any other SEC game. Another lost season.

Add CJ Conrad to the list while we're at it. I guarantee OSU could figure out how to get him the ball.

[Spiritof96]

Add CJ Conrad to the list while we're at it. I guarantee OSU could figure out how to get him the ball.

Our QBs couldn't get anyone the ball today...

[Joneslab]

Varsity football revenue pays for itself and EVERY other sport at UK.

This isn't true.

[Pobilly]

Well guys Miss St is putting it to South Carolina. Not up by tons 21-0 and moving with 24 seconds left in the 1st half. I will say that South Carolina vs Kentucky will be a rough game for both teams. MSU will probably keep their current streak alive against us as well as Vandy. NMS / USC and the patsy win on the schedule is all we can hope for so maybe 3 wins. That is very depressing.

[Joneslab]

Basketball has something like an 8 million dollar revenue.

But regardless, I'm not sure what the "football supports everything else" argument proves.

Football has gotten to the point--through TV mostly, but also through some booster support drummed up by Stoops and Mitch--to where it has enough. And in some ways it's always had enough, even as paltry as the resources have been at UK relative to other programs. Rich Brooks and in some ways Mumme showed that it can be done.

So the idea that the football program is given nothing while having to prop up everything else doesn't quite fit.

Not only is it false, even if it were true then it's an argument that leads nowhere.

Stoops has enough to succeed. He's recruited well enough to succeed. I just don't think he can coach.

[George]

This isn't true.

I don't feel like doing the research, but I can't see any way that you'd be wrong about this. Between the number of games in the basketball season vs. football, the price of lower-level seating in Rupp, and capacity attendance at Rupp vs. whatever Commonwealth struggles to attract each season, I just don't see football winning this battle.

[Joneslab]

I don't feel like doing the research, but I can't see any way that you'd be wrong about this

UK basketball is an astronomical money-maker...among other basketball programs.

Football is on another level. A better argument would be: "UK football could fund itself and every other program."

But UK basketball is a financial giant in a sport that doesn't have a whole lot of them.

[Spiritof96]

This isn't true.

In 2014 Basketball net revenue was in the black $7,721,823 Football was in the black net $16,421,756. This is operating revenue. All other sports were $20,587,912 in the RED. How is it that Football isn't carrying minor sports?

The total net operating revenue vs expenses yields a near 18 million dollar loss each year that gets made up by gifts, investment income, grants, licensing etc so that the department as a whole turns a 10 million dollar profit.

The only argument being made here is that football matters and no one in the Athletic department "doesn't care" and Basketball is not the panacea cash cow so many in this state believe it to be. Basketball isn't what makes UK athletics go.

[Blue Heaven]

And my argument is that it's not that they don't care. It's that they (Mitch) are not SMART ENOUGH to know what it takes to build a successful football program. Building facilities is the easy part. It doesn't take any knowledge to accomplish that. He has whiffed on Stoops and staff and that can't be debated.

[SCBlu]

I just got home and realizing how bad it is. Kinda glad I didn't have to watch the game, but reading some of the posts on here it seems to me like a few of you are enjoying UK getting spanked like this because you can bash the AD, the Coaches and probably the players, and you're so good at it. They may deserve it, but I thought this is a Kentucky Board. Go Cats!

All due respect Lighthouse, but I've supported UK since "63 at Stoll Field and I've never been more disgusted with the play and direction of this "team". I've finally had enough until UK puts its big boy pants on and hires a proven WINNER. I'm outta here...............