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  • DA#23
    Administrator
    • Oct 2014
    • 7342

    #31
    One thing I've noticed over the last 8 years (time has flown by!) is that this staff cares about what the fans are saying.

    Also saw something noted on KSR and that was a reminder of Saban's comments about college football having changed so fundamentally in the last decade, with the suggestion that Stoops might have really taken this to heart.

    It's going to be very interesting. Despite the two you-know-what losses of this season we are coming off of the most successful 4-5 year stretch in my lifetime, so when you let that go you better make sure you make the right decisions. It's taken a long time to build us up to this point and it wouldn't take long to hurt the program at this juncture.

    If Stoops is serious about changing and feels like we had hit our ceiling with the prior gameplan, he must commit to this decision wholeheartedly. There's a lot riding on it.

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    • teamchemistry15
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 7022

      #32
      I'm taking this as a sign that Stoops is developing with the rest of the conference. When he came in it was a league dominated by defense and he's built a good one. Now he sees this year play out and it's blatantly obvious (even Saban said it) that times are changing. Seems like a good time for a fresh start.

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      • DA#23
        Administrator
        • Oct 2014
        • 7342

        #33
        I also can't help but wonder how we would have played with about 3 more reliable playmakers on offense...and no week-to-week COVID hiccups. I would like to think we could have been a smidge more diverse, which also would have helped the running game as well as Terry imo.

        I do hope that Terry Wilson comes through all of this without having a drastically changed opinion of the program. He's said to be a fine young man and to begin this season he was 12-3 at UK. That was really awesome.

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        • Spiritof96
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 13503

          #34
          I hope this works out. I can't help but feel like Gran and Hinshaw are the scape goat for systemic UK (and Stoops related) problems.
          Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
          ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
          Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
          No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
          RIP: Charlie Munger​

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          • DA#23
            Administrator
            • Oct 2014
            • 7342

            #35
            Originally posted by matt colvin
            One thing I've noticed over the last 8 years (time has flown by!) is that this staff cares about what the fans are saying.
            I will say that I don't always think that's a good thing. Especially when the core of the staff arrived they were relatively younger and I thought it was consistent with them trying to maintain an eye on public image as well as being "connected" with the recruits. They were cognizant of social media, for example.

            I now wonder if they might need to toughen up a smidge when it comes to criticism from the fanbase.

            I might be wrong on this front, hard telling.

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            • Brasslock
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 737

              #36
              I liked Eddie Gran and appreciated his talents as an OC. I know other knowledgeable students of the game have had very positive observations on his play calling and adapting an offense to the talents of the players. I just hope we aren't throwing the baby out with the bath water. It seems to me that I haven't heard that much from Hinshaw this year. It might have come down to Gran supporting Hinshaw, but I just have no idea. I feel like I'm trying to read tea leaves here trying to understand.

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              • Spiritof96
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 13503

                #37
                Originally posted by Brasslock
                I liked Eddie Gran and appreciated his talents as an OC. I know other knowledgeable students of the game have had very positive observations on his play calling and adapting an offense to the talents of the players. I just hope we aren't throwing the baby out with the bath water. It seems to me that I haven't heard that much from Hinshaw this year. It might have come down to Gran supporting Hinshaw, but I just have no idea. I feel like I'm trying to read tea leaves here trying to understand.
                My guess is that Stopps, Gran, and Hinshaw got together and CMS said... "Look, guys, I know it isn't all your fault but it is your responsibility. The offense sucked SO bad this year that I have no choice but to make a change or lose the program. This is the business we are in"
                Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                • Bourbonman
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 330

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Spiritof96

                  My guess is that Stopps, Gran, and Hinshaw got together and CMS said... "Look, guys, I know it isn't all your fault but it is your responsibility. The offense sucked SO bad this year that I have no choice but to make a change or lose the program. This is the business we are in"
                  I believe this pretty much sums it up and Stoops knowing he’s responsible for the whole thing would need to make a change or someone else would be saying that to him in the future.

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                  • 40bill
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 8451

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Spiritof96

                    My guess is that Stopps, Gran, and Hinshaw got together and CMS said... "Look, guys, I know it isn't all your fault but it is your responsibility. The offense sucked SO bad this year that I have no choice but to make a change or lose the program. This is the business we are in"
                    I agree this is probably the way things played out.

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                    • Dwight Schrute
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 18716

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Spiritof96

                      My guess is that Stopps, Gran, and Hinshaw got together and CMS said... "Look, guys, I know it isn't all your fault but it is your responsibility. The offense sucked SO bad this year that I have no choice but to make a change or lose the program. This is the business we are in"
                      Based on what I've read, it sounds like that's how it went down. KSR has said this has been in the works for several weeks and Gran and Hinshaw have known they wouldn't be retained after the year is over.

                      The only quibble I heard is that it was less of a 'you need to fall on your sword' issue and more of a Stoops realizing the way SEC offenses are now, he'd be unable to recruit talent to stay competitive if he didn't adjust. So I'm choosing to believe we're going to see a more opened up offense next year.

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                      • Dwight Schrute
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 18716

                        #41
                        At least Stoops has never handled anything as poorly as Scott Satterfield.

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                        • 40bill
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 8451

                          #42
                          Satterfield really has foot in mouth disorder.

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                          • SBCatMan
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 1765

                            #43
                            Originally posted by matt colvin
                            I also can't help but wonder how we would have played with about 3 more playmakers on offense.
                            Ooh ... Ooh ... I’ve got this one!

                            1). Purdue WR Rondale Moore
                            2). Nebraska WR Wan’Dale Robinson
                            3). Norte Dame TE Michael Mayers

                            All 3 are Kentucky kids that got away.

                            Can you just imagine!?!?!?

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                            • DA#23
                              Administrator
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 7342

                              #44
                              Ouch! Hurts to read that.

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                              • 40bill
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 8451

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Dwight Schrute
                                At least Stoops has never handled anything as poorly as Scott Satterfield.

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                                Apparently coaches Satterfield and Stoops studied at the same class of 'This is what you do NOT say in news conferences."

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