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  • George
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 10355

    #16
    Originally posted by KevinHall
    IMO the holding call was correct. Haynes tackled the defensive lineman in a wide open field. That gets called 100% of the time. You just can't do that.
    Yep. And that's a team captain. You HAVE TO avoid those mistakes at that level.

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    • Matt Dillon
      Administrator
      • Oct 2014
      • 49612

      #17
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      Philippians 4:11-4:13

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      • KevinHall
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 6857

        #18
        ^ I'm sure you can find multiple holdings during a game that weren't called. But you can't do what Haynes did and not get called for it. No reason for that to have happened.
        Kentucky fan since 1971.

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        • teamchemistry15
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 7022

          #19
          Officials are humans. They make mistakes. Sometimes obvious ones and sometimes they are tougher. It's never crossed my mind that an official was intentionally calling a game in a way to favor one team over the other. Haynes held. They called it. Did they not call similar plays earlier in the game? Sure. Did they call lesser holds earlier in the game? Yup. All of you saying "You don't make that call in that situation" should stop and ask one question. If we are on the road at Florida in the exact opposite scenario, are you ok if he doesn't call it and Florida wins on a field goal? Or would it be home cookin' if they let it go? Officials have a job to do. Do they miss stuff? Yup. That's part of the game. Unless you want to review every play it'll never be perfect. Sometimes it works out in our favor. Sparks totally travelled before he got fouled at UofL but it wasn't called. Where's your outcry on that one? I didn't hear one of you saying the officials sucked then.

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          • johnkyblue
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 4418

            #20
            Our defense didn't break in the 4th Quarter, they quit calling holding on UF. Our offense didn't break in the 4th Quarter, they started calling touch penalties. The refs in the SEC are corrupt and create a twilight zone effect where you have no idea what THEY are watching despite what you are seeing. I know that offends people. But it's simply not the case that 31 happens without cheating. At some point the law of large numbers is supposed to kick in. Sample sizes of about 32-33 give very low confidence intervals from memory so we better be rolling off two in a row or it's proven by stats they are cheaters.

            I realize that's not how the law of large numbers works, but it works for a proof of cheating.

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            • johnkyblue
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 4418

              #21
              Originally posted by teamchemistry15
              Sparks totally travelled before he got fouled at UofL but it wasn't called. Where's your outcry on that one? I didn't hear one of you saying the officials sucked then.
              I honestly have NO idea who Sparks is, or whatever you are talking about, but if we are trading calls in football for calls in basketball then super duper screw the basketball team and never ever again.

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              • George
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 10355

                #22
                Originally posted by johnkyblue
                I honestly have NO idea who Sparks is, or whatever you are talking about, but if we are trading calls in football for calls in basketball then super duper screw the basketball team and never ever again.
                Patrick Sparks. Portly little sausage biscuit-lovin' home state transfer from WKU.

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                • Lighthouse
                  Gone But Never Forgotten
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 35962

                  #23
                  Originally posted by johnkyblue
                  Our defense didn't break in the 4th Quarter, they quit calling holding on UF. Our offense didn't break in the 4th Quarter, they started calling touch penalties. The refs in the SEC are corrupt and create a twilight zone effect where you have no idea what THEY are watching despite what you are seeing. I know that offends people. But it's simply not the case that 31 happens without cheating. At some point the law of large numbers is supposed to kick in. Sample sizes of about 32-33 give very low confidence intervals from memory so we better be rolling off two in a row or it's proven by stats they are cheaters.

                  I realize that's not how the law of large numbers works, but it works for a proof of cheating.
                  You are Totally wrong! And your main problem is, you enjoy it.
                  John 3:3

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                  • Matt Dillon
                    Administrator
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 49612

                    #24
                    Originally posted by KevinHall
                    ^ I'm sure you can find multiple holdings during a game that weren't called. But you can't do what Haynes did and not get called for it. No reason for that to have happened.
                    I agree and I'm not taking the position that the officiating cost us the game. I posted this pic because the hold on Elam is so obvious I don't see how the referee missed it unless he was looking at something else.
                    Philippians 4:11-4:13

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                    • johnkyblue
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 4418

                      #25
                      He didn't WANT to see it.

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                      • Lighthouse
                        Gone But Never Forgotten
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 35962

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Matt Dillon

                        I agree and I'm not taking the position that the officiating cost us the game. I posted this pic because the hold on Elam is so obvious I don't see how the referee missed it unless he was looking at something else.
                        That was a good catch, and an example of one of many holds that goes on every game, HS, College or Pro. But at every level, if you take the defense down, it will be called a hold.
                        John 3:3

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                        • johnkyblue
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 4418

                          #27
                          There is such a thing as a pancake block, or is that against the rules now? Can a defensive player just get smashed and it get called a hold? No. It's not "take the defense down" simple.

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                          • Lighthouse
                            Gone But Never Forgotten
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 35962

                            #28
                            ^Considering the source. Sad!!
                            John 3:3

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                            • Matt Dillon
                              Administrator
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 49612

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Lighthouse

                              But at every level, if you take the defense down, it will be called a hold.
                              If Elam had just spun around to his right, and fell down, I wonder what would have happened?
                              Philippians 4:11-4:13

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                              • johnkyblue
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 4418

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Matt Dillon
                                If Elam had just spun around to his right, and fell down, I wonder what would have happened?
                                Nothing.

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