Board Draft

[J.Jennings]

The NBA is a tricky thing. I tried to think of guys who'd been drafted and had played in the NBA even though NBA production shouldn't count.

I think where a player was drafted sometimes (not all the time: Skal) will show that a player has something that might separate him from others. It's why I took LeRon Ellis, not only because he had a solid sophomore year but because he was a first-round draft pick. A lot of great players at UK didn't play in the NBA, which is not a knock on them but it does give a person a little bit of a metric for how to think about them. (Again, not in all cases. I do think Anthony Epps would've been a great point guard with any team.)

All that said, I think I might have the worst team but it was really fun.

Like you, i have had a blast. Could care less win or lose. It's just hard to gauge some of Cal's guys because lets be honest, these kids have made sacrfices to win now. Guys like J. Brown, S. Muhammad, maybe Wiggins chose to play elswhere because they wanted stats and to be featured........

[KevinHall]

That's make it hard with only a handful of coaches unless we all have the same coach lol lol lol lol......

If you read my post I said we could include some assistants that coached at UK. Anyway what Downes said is better. We can just name one of the UK coaches that we think would best fit our team.

[J.Jennings]

If you read my post I said we could include some assistants that coached at UK. Anyway what Downes said is better. We can just name one of the UK coaches that we think would best fit our team.

Sounds like a plan...........

[J.Jennings]

This upcoming vote is going to be viscous, I can feel it

If i had it to do all over, would have taken every 6"5 player from 1965 and below. Those players back then were absolute freaks and would dominate this new breed of Kentucky players. From a stats point of view, what if the 3 point line was in play back in the day, some of these guys may have averaged 40 a game.....

[J.Jennings]

But let me put up another NBA video...

Does North Carolina play a video of Jordan and the Bulls when trying to tell a player why he should choose North Carolina over Kentucky???? Techinally speaking, some of the NBA videos are of UK guys who would be sophomores, juniors, or seniors at Kentucky, let that sink in for a minute. You have UK guys amongst the elite with the best players in the world and could still be in college. You want to talk about accomplishments, take Calipari's guys and put them on the same team for 4 years, how many titles, how many accomplishments for Kentucky????

[Friendsofcoal]

Does North Carolina play a video of Jordan and the Bulls when trying to tell a player why he should choose North Carolina over Kentucky???? Techinally speaking, some of the NBA videos are of UK guys who would be sophomores, juniors, or seniors at Kentucky, let that sink in for a minute. You have UK guys amongst the elite with the best players in the world and could still be in college. You want to talk about accomplishments, take Calipari's guys and put them on the same team for 4 years, how many titles, how many accomplishments for Kentucky????

We would start catching up with our cheerleaders pretty quick! Lol

[Lighthouse]

Toying with 2 players as my final pick. Pat Riley or Johnny Cox. I'll be back soon.

[KevinHall]

Toying with 2 players as my final pick. Pat Riley or Johnny Cox. I'll be back soon.

Can't go wrong with either. I am biased I would go with the mountain boy, Johnny Cox.

[J.Jennings]

We would start catching up with our cheerleaders pretty quick! Lol

This is crazy lol lol lol lol lol.....

[George]

Does North Carolina play a video of Jordan and the Bulls when trying to tell a player why he should choose North Carolina over Kentucky???? Techinally speaking, some of the NBA videos are of UK guys who would be sophomores, juniors, or seniors at Kentucky, let that sink in for a minute. You have UK guys amongst the elite with the best players in the world and could still be in college. You want to talk about accomplishments, take Calipari's guys and put them on the same team for 4 years, how many titles, how many accomplishments for Kentucky????

You're talking about two different things.

We aren't recruiting. We're drafting players as they were in a specific moment in time. That moment might have been one year, or it might have been four. That player's stats during that time might not have reflected his talent, ability, or contribution, but our knowledge and argument about those things is as far as this should go. The question is, "What else might he have been able to do based on what we saw at Kentucky?" We can't bring NBA performance into this discussion. It's irrelevant.

Notice that no one drafted Archie Goodwin. Were we drafting based on what he's done in the NBA, someone would've picked him up. Notice, too, that I took Tony Delk. Were I considering his NBA career, I might not have perceived his value to be as high.

[Lighthouse]

The stats for my last two options are very close. Both players were 6'4" Riley is from NY, and Cox from Hazard Ky.

Pat Riley, Probably the best hops for a white player in UK's history. I saw several games and he jumped center, and I can't ever remember him not getting the tip. Averaged 18.1 PPG; 8.4 RPG; 2.0 APG. NCAA RU. 1966 All American.

Johnny Cox, a very athletic player who could score and rebound. I never saw him play, but listened to all his games on the radio.
Averaged 17.4 PPG; 12.0 RPG. NCAA Champ 1958. 2 time All American. 58 All NCAA FF Team. 58 NCAA All Reg. Team.

This was a very tough decision, but with his better NCAA record, I'm selecting Johnny Cox as the last pick in this years draft.

This has been a blast.

[KevinHall]

You're talking about two different things.

We aren't recruiting. We're drafting players as they were in a specific moment in time. That moment might have been one year, or it might have been four. That player's stats during that time might not have reflected his talent, ability, or contribution, but our knowledge and argument about those things is as far as this should go. The question is, "What else might he have been able to do based on what we saw at Kentucky?" We can't bring NBA performance into this discussion. It's irrelevant.

Notice that no one drafted Archie Goodwin. Were we drafting based on what he's done in the NBA, someone would've picked him up. Notice, too, that I took Tony Delk. Were I considering his NBA career, I might not have perceived his value to be as high.

I took Kenny Walker with my 1st pick. Great college player but never very good in the pros. I could care less what UK players do in the pros after they leave. For this exercise what they did at UK is only to be considered.

[Uncle Dave]

Awesome final pick by Lighthouse!!! Can't believe no one picked Frank Ramsey, #2 career rebounder. Oh well. Great job by ALL. There are several epic teams in the field. Gonna be really, really hard to pick a winner.

[teamchemistry15]

You're talking about two different things.

We aren't recruiting. We're drafting players as they were in a specific moment in time. That moment might have been one year, or it might have been four. That player's stats during that time might not have reflected his talent, ability, or contribution, but our knowledge and argument about those things is as far as this should go. The question is, "What else might he have been able to do based on what we saw at Kentucky?" We can't bring NBA performance into this discussion. It's irrelevant.

Notice that no one drafted Archie Goodwin. Were we drafting based on what he's done in the NBA, someone would've picked him up. Notice, too, that I took Tony Delk. Were I considering his NBA career, I might not have perceived his value to be as high.

I've stopped trying to explain this to him. I have better luck talking to the wall in my house. I'm glad someone took over for me. Is it really that hard to understand that only what they did while at UK matters? Not necessarily just stats. I think we are all intelligent enough to understand and create a valid argument about what a Demarcus Cousins did while at UK other than post his averages per game.

[J.Jennings]

You're talking about two different things.

We aren't recruiting. We're drafting players as they were in a specific moment in time. That moment might have been one year, or it might have been four. That player's stats during that time might not have reflected his talent, ability, or contribution, but our knowledge and argument about those things is as far as this should go. The question is, "What else might he have been able to do based on what we saw at Kentucky?" We can't bring NBA performance into this discussion. It's irrelevant.

Notice that no one drafted Archie Goodwin. Were we drafting based on what he's done in the NBA, someone would've picked him up. Notice, too, that I took Tony Delk. Were I considering his NBA career, I might not have perceived his value to be as high.

Tony Delk went off for 50 points in a NBA game, how many have done that??


Still, the whole point of a NBA video of a ex UK players shouldn't come as something we would be worried about if we are picking off college play. Instead of "don't post the NBA videos to influence a voter" how about " man, im sure proud of our players that have came through our program" and took it to the next level.

Bottomline, when i am looking at old and new videos of former Cats from the 50's,60's, or even the ones in the NBA now, it's makes me proud as a UK fan. Most importantly, it brings back memories and good vibes and THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT PERIOD!!!!!!!


Don't let the fact that my team is crazy athletic and can score from every position distract you. If being athletic doesn't mean anything in the vote, then why is Calipari here now?? We may as well go ahead and start the site fireCoachCal.com.................................. ...


A few of these teams i see it's simple, cut the head off the monster and you win. How about let the star get his 20-25 and shut everyone else down?????