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[UKHoops01]

So magically whomever UK gets will have us in the final 4 in a year?

If the next AD hires the right guy, yes...that's very possible, some might even say probable. Have you ever heard of Dusty May?

UK could end up with no major coach wanting the gig again, just like with Pope, and we have a worse situatiion.

That's where a good AD comes into play. Let Barnhardt have a say and if the university plays along with the good ole boy network way of doing things, and yes, it might end up worse.

Hire the best AD possible, whether he has ties to UK or has never stepped foot on campus, and it probably won't.

Kentucky has a reputation that should allow them to hire the best of the best.... just as long as you don't have a Mitch Barnhardt who gets his feelings hurt because he gets turned down a time or two so he rushes to find a YES man.

[Rondo#9]

Word is Cal is going heavy after Burks.

Makes sense

[Pobilly]

If the next AD hires the right guy, yes...that's very possible, some might even say probable. Have you ever heard of Dusty May?



That's where a good AD comes into play. Let Barnhardt have a say and if the university plays along with the good ole boy network way of doing things, and yes, it might end up worse.

Hire the best AD possible, whether he has ties to UK or has never stepped foot on campus, and it probably won't.

Kentucky has a reputation that should allow them to hire the best of the best.... just as long as you don't have a Mitch Barnhardt who gets his feelings hurt because he gets turned down a time or two so he rushes to find a YES man.

Dusty May was a wrestler back in the 70s and 80s.

UK does have a reputation: The reputation is that the fans expect final fours every year and anything less is unacceptable. That is a turn off right there no matter the AD. There are major coaches that have been offered the job several times and have not even listened to the pitch. To think, WE ARE KENTUCKY and you cannot say no is crazy in itself.

Yes Dusty may is a coach. He is not a coach coming to UK any time soon.

[Pobilly]

I did not want either of these guys.
Louisville Cardinals get De’Shayne Montgomery and likely getting Gabe Dynes

https://www.aseaofblue.com/kentucky-...dynes#comments

[Matt Dillon]

With all due respect, I would question anyone's loyalty in hoping the team loses games in order to eliminate the coach..
I would never wish a loss(es) on the Wildcats under any circumstance
GO CATS

I agree 100%.

[South jones]

So you'd rather be stuck in mediocrity for several ongoing years into the future than to suffer one bad season and then right the ship and turn it around like Calipari did after Gillespie?

No sir, I do not wish for either. I wanted BCG gone but never wanted the Cats to lose at anytime during his tenure. Funny how those things seem to work out. They did back then and they will again this time.

So mean time, although i dislike a lot of things so far with Pope, i still hope he becomes successful and i wiil root like hell for the Cats

[KentuckyWild2020]

I guess i am confused about Oweh and a potential 5th year because he didn't enter the portal? Technically, he is a Kentucky Wildcat, why would he have to enter the portal?

If granted that 5th year and because he did not put his name in the portal, would that mean his only option would be Kentucky because that is the school he plays for??

Anyways, I have mentioned Billy D a few times and yes he's a good proven coach but really, would Billy D really be committed to Kentucky the same as Pope?

If Kerr leaves and Golden does go to GS., i would say more than likely Billy D returns to Florida.

Anyways, I hope POPE is figuring some things out as we speak about this whole landscape of college basketball and how the offseason works these days.

If he lands Stokes and let's say Oweh can play, even JQ if it's more money at Kentucky than the pro's, could actually end up with a good squad, who knows, it's all crazy bizarre and crazy these days...

[UKHoops01]

I agree 100%.

Seriously, and I mean this with all due respect....

But who the hell are either of you to question my or any other fans "loyalty"?

I question the sanity of any "fan" who doesn't have a problem with their once top tier elite program dropping down to the ranks of has-been and mediocrity. I think being loyal to being a winner carries as much weight as not minding seeing a team join the ranks of UCLA and indiana.

[Matt Dillon]

If the next AD hires the right guy, yes...that's very possible, some might even say probable. Have you ever heard of Dusty May?



That's where a good AD comes into play. Let Barnhardt have a say and if the university plays along with the good ole boy network way of doing things, and yes, it might end up worse.

Hire the best AD possible, whether he has ties to UK or has never stepped foot on campus, and it probably won't.

Kentucky has a reputation that should allow them to hire the best of the best.... just as long as you don't have a Mitch Barnhardt who gets his feelings hurt because he gets turned down a time or two so he rushes to find a YES man.

I think relying on the Ky. reputation may be what coach Pope's doing and you see how that's working out for him. With the advent of NIL and the Portal a school's past history/reputation doesn't mean what they used to.

[UKHoops01]

No sir, I do not wish for either. I wanted BCG gone but never wanted the Cats to lose at anytime during his tenure. Funny how those things seem to work out. They did back then and they will again this time.

So mean time, although i dislike a lot of things so far with Pope, i still hope he becomes successful and i wiil root like hell for the Cats

Here's the problem I have. I honestly, truthfully, 100% believe that the University of Kentucky fan base has been guilted into accepting mediocrity. We have been told by other fan bases and by media outlets like Sleepers Media that we have unrealistic and overbearing fans that don't deal with reality. And they have been successful in saying that because now we are willing to bend over backwards to accept a coach who we know is not going to be much more than a mediocre coach just as a way of saving face and showing how tolerant we are. Sorry, but I don't want to assume that the program will once again return to elite status because we paid our dues by accepting mediocrity for a period of time. It's been shown time and time again that some programs (UCLA and Indiana) never do recover.

[UKHoops01]

I think relying on the Ky. reputation may be what coach Pope's doing and you see how that's working out for him. With the advent of NIL and the Portal a school's past history/reputation doesn't mean what they used to.

Which is exactly why you need a top tier coach and not a coach that just has loyalty and "ties to the program".

[Matt Dillon]

Today I've had to delete several posts due to posters attacking each other. This thread is relevant, and important, so I'm not going to lock it. The only other option is to hand out suspensions if this continues. If anyone has trouble controlling their emotions, perhaps they need to step back until they can. In the meantime, if you haven't done so already, it might be good to read the "Friendly Reminder" Sticky Thread at the top of page one.

[Pobilly]

Seriously, and I mean this with all due respect....

But who the hell are either of you to question my or any other fans "loyalty"?

I question the sanity of any "fan" who doesn't have a problem with their once top tier elite program dropping down to the ranks of has-been and mediocrity. I think being loyal to being a winner carries as much weight as not minding seeing a team join the ranks of UCLA and indiana.

If you are loyal to winning. Coach does not matter. Being loyal to winning means you want KENTUCKY TO WIN. You cannot make that statement and the other statement about UK losing. It is the whole having your cake and eating it too. Do you not see what you are putting out there?

I am not judging you either. It is the perception you are causing.

[Rondo#9]

This is the softest forum I've ever seen.

Reminds me of the sarcastaball episode of South Park.

[UKHoops01]

If you are loyal to winning. Coach does not matter. Being loyal to winning means you want KENTUCKY TO WIN. You cannot make that statement and the other statement about UK losing. It is the whole having your cake and eating it too. Do you not see what you are putting out there?

I am not judging you either. It is the perception you are causing.

I am simply saying that I want Kentucky to remain one of the top tier, elite, blue blood programs in the country. But, apparently we are seeing a fan base that is willing to accept our slide into mediocrity. Remember, this didn't just start with Mark Pope, this began the last 5 years of John Calipari. That is why we cannot accept too much longer of this. Now, if you and the other fans are willing to sit around another five or six years and accept Mark Pope having teams ranked outside the top 25 that spend 20 million dollars on NIL and don't make it past the first round or weekend of the tournament, then that's on you....I don't want to become one of those fans. And if that makes me a bad fan, then so be it. I'll live with it, just like I've lived with the Cincinnati Reds being horrible for the last few decades and the Dallas Cowboys not being relevant the past few decades. I was kind of hoping that Kentucky would keep one of my teams on top, though.