Sweeping Rules Changes Coming

[JFCats22]

One thing to note is that all of these changes have to still be approved. I have read a few places that they do not expect all of them to get the ok.

[DA#23]

Lighthouse, when do you think the game moved away from those characteristics which you describe?

BIG MONEY

[justford]

Need to remove the one minute rule to sub for a player that has fouled out. The one minute becomes two minutes.

[TrueblueCATfan]

Love the new shot clock rule

[TrueblueCATfan]

Here is a pretty good recap of all the proposed rule changes -

The NCAA rules committee got together today to vote on rules changes and the most notable of those changes is a 30-second shot clock. College basketball will adopt the 30-second clock next season, chipping away five seconds from the 35-second clock that had been around since 1993.

There are also three new changes related to timeouts:

1. Number of timeouts reduced from five to four, with no more than three being carried over into the second half.

2. Stricter enforcement of resumption of play coming out of timeouts and after a player has fouled out.

3. Team timeouts with 30 seconds prior to media timeouts will become media timeouts, with exception of first team timeout in second half.

And new rules to reduce the physicality of the game:

1. Strict enforcement of defensive rules.

2. Providing offensive players same principles of verticality protections as defensive players.

3. Move restricted-area arc out from three to four feet.
Other changes include:
– Elimination of five-second closely-guarded call
– Hanging on rim technical foul reduced to one shot
– Allow pregame warmup dunking
– 10-second backcourt timer will not reset after timeout
– Eliminating coach-called live ball timeouts
– Allow instant replay of shots made after shot clock goes off

All proposed rules must be approved by the Playing Rules Oversight Panel on June 8 before becoming officially official.

that last one make me sick

[Lighthouse]

Lighthouse, when do you think the game moved away from those characteristics which you describe?

BIG MONEY

It didn't move all at once or very quick. With a so called improvement here and another there, we have the game we watch now. The majority of the rule book is basically the same. I firmly believe when the words advantage-disadvantage were introduced to Officials, the way the game was called has changed the game as much as anything.

[Lighthouse]

that last one make me sick

What about it makes you sick? If the new rule had been in effect in UK's game with Wisc., we might be hanging #9 soon.

[Lighthouse]

One thing to note is that all of these changes have to still be approved. I have read a few places that they do not expect all of them to get the ok.

That is the way it always is. They talk about a bunch of changes, and only implement a few, and add an emphasis or two.

[Lighthouse]

Love ya Lighthouse but that sounds like the argument people have always made about pro baseball.

I.e. that the game used to be pure and that guys would play for the love of the game and that it was not tied to big money and astronomical contracts.

What you really learn though when you read about those players is that they roundly hated the system, they were always trying to get more money, and that most of them would cheat their own mothers to find a way to get a higher salary.

These sports are about the pleasure of watching them. It can be about the student-athlete in intramural ball. These games are just like movies and music: they're deviations. They bring a lot to the players who play them--I wouldn't be the same person had I not played sports--but the game doesn't have to radically change simply because the rules change.

You move the shot clock five seconds down. You widen the lane. You do all these things, but it's the same game. It doesn't rip the soul out of the sport to make these changes. In fact in my mind it makes the game more pure, because the version we've seen the last few years is driving a lot of people away from this sport we love.

I don't think I objected to the changes, I only stated they shouldn't be made because of Fan and TV pressure, and some of the changes are following past changes that move the College game closer to the Pro game, and I don't think that should be the case. For instance, the switch to the NBA "Flex" floor coverage for NCAA Officials changed the College game negatively. Although the College and NBA walk rules are entirely different, College Officials are allowing College players to play by the NBA rule. I think an emphasis to calling the College game the way the rule is written will affect the game as much as the emphasis on hand checking did.

I have no problem with the shot clock being 5 seconds less, or as you suggest, widening the lane, although moving the inside player away from the basket one lane spot didn't help much.

I just think the College game should be totally different from the Pro game. That's my call, and I'm sticking to it.

[Joneslab]

I guess I don't see the difference.

The college game is "about the student-athlete" and the NBA game is purely for entertainment?

That seems very vague to me. It's the same sport. The NBA game is, at least for the past five years, better. Arguably much better.

[TrueblueCATfan]

What about it makes you sick? If the new rule had been in effect in UK's game with Wisc., we might be hanging #9 soon.

exactly...I am sick that this was not a rule already

[teamchemistry15]

I have been thinking of the 5 second rule going away. I initially disliked it because that is taking away a weapon Ulis has. But, the more I think about it the better I like it. If might save his legs a little.

[Lighthouse]

I guess I don't see the difference.

The college game is "about the student-athlete" and the NBA game is purely for entertainment?

That seems very vague to me. It's the same sport. The NBA game is, at least for the past five years, better. Arguably much better.

I guess I'm doing a poor job saying what mean. My point is this, there is a vast difference in the talent level in the NBA, but the rules and the way the games are officiated is closer now than it's ever been, and I think it shouldn't be that way. For several years the NCAA has been trying to move the College game toward the Pro game, and IMO it's ruining the College game. The current proposed rule changes seem OK to me, I think the NCAA needs to go a couple steps farther.

[Westtncat]

I think the NBA sucks personally. That's just my opinion tho. With a short shot clock in the NBA you have a lot of guys doing amazing things with the basketball, some of the shots they hit are unreal. I think at the college level its gonna get real sloppy. If you notice more and more on the world stage other countries are catching up with us. Some of these teams that run good offenses really put it to some of these NBA guys. Teams like Wisconsin, Butler and other guys can compete with superior talented teams but trying to neutralize what they can with a good game plan. If you make it where its just a running contest then talent and depth will be all that matters. I don't like a game to be changed to appeal to the occasional fan.

I don't watch baseball because to me its slow, some games end 1-0. All I can think to myself is how boring that is. People who watch baseball on a consistent basis tell me how so much more is going on with strategy, and they love a good pitchers duel. I like to see defensive schemes vs certain types of offense. I think a lot of these rules are ok anyway but speaking in general about changing the game so everyone likes it does not suit me.

The NBA was changed to bring in more money, they want to see 149-150 games. A lot of those rich fans couldn't tell you what a screen or a charge is, they just know the round thingy went through that hoopy thing a bunch of times.

[Joneslab]

Definitely will be an adjustment period with the shot clock. As there will be if they clean up the physicality.

But after that two- or three-year period the game should even out and be a lot better.

But regardless of the rules and how they're changed, college basketball will always be hurt by the fact that its elite athletes are going to play one or two years and then leave.