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  • Joneslab
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 39604

    #1

    Sweeping Rules Changes Coming

    This is still breaking and I haven't seen a link, but the D1 rules committee has suggested quite a few rules changes, almost all of which are surely to go in next year.

    Shot clock will be moved down to 30.
    Timeouts will go from 5 to 4, with no more than 3 allowed to be carried over to the second half.
    The coach will no longer be allowed to call a "bail-out" timeout to save a possession.
    Closely guarded 5-second call will be removed.
    If a timeout is called 30 seconds or less before a TV timeout, that timeout becomes the TV timeout.
    Dunking will now be allowed in warm-ups.
    Floppers will be assessed technical fouls, as the rules stipulate.

    All very good and necessary changes.
  • Joneslab
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 39604

    #2
    Tyler Ulis ‏@tulis3 4m4 minutes ago I like that new shot clock

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    • KevinHall
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 6857

      #3
      Beat me to it. I'll delete mine. I believe I like most or all of the changes.
      Kentucky fan since 1971.

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      • KevinHall
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 6857

        #4
        One thing buried in this is the Chris Jones rule. If a player is found to be faking when something is being reviewed they can receive a technical foul.
        Kentucky fan since 1971.

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        • JFCats22
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 4210

          #5
          Will - you have to love the TO changes!!

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          • Joneslab
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 39604

            #6
            If I were king I'd give them three timeouts total, do away with official reviews at the monitor for flagrant fouls, give the coaches two challenge flags, do away with the "extended to a full" media timeout to start the second half, make it so that charges couldn't be taken if you have any part of your shoe in the painted area, extend the game to 22:00 per half, and widen/lengthen the playing floor.

            And I'd probably pull the shot clock down to 24. And I'd move the three-point line out by at least a foot.

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            • JFCats22
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 4210

              #7
              Here is a pretty good recap of all the proposed rule changes -

              The NCAA rules committee got together today to vote on rules changes and the most notable of those changes is a 30-second shot clock. College basketball will adopt the 30-second clock next season, chipping away five seconds from the 35-second clock that had been around since 1993.

              There are also three new changes related to timeouts:

              1. Number of timeouts reduced from five to four, with no more than three being carried over into the second half.

              2. Stricter enforcement of resumption of play coming out of timeouts and after a player has fouled out.

              3. Team timeouts with 30 seconds prior to media timeouts will become media timeouts, with exception of first team timeout in second half.

              And new rules to reduce the physicality of the game:

              1. Strict enforcement of defensive rules.

              2. Providing offensive players same principles of verticality protections as defensive players.

              3. Move restricted-area arc out from three to four feet.
              Other changes include:
              – Elimination of five-second closely-guarded call
              – Hanging on rim technical foul reduced to one shot
              – Allow pregame warmup dunking
              – 10-second backcourt timer will not reset after timeout
              – Eliminating coach-called live ball timeouts
              – Allow instant replay of shots made after shot clock goes off

              All proposed rules must be approved by the Playing Rules Oversight Panel on June 8 before becoming officially official.

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              • Joneslab
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 39604

                #8
                Originally posted by JFCats22
                Allow instant replay of shots made after shot clock goes off.
                *sick feeling in pit of stomach*
                Last edited by Joneslab; 05-15-2015, 03:43 PM.

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                • Blue Heaven
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 6283

                  #9
                  ^ I hear ya!!
                  Isaiah 5:20

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                  • GOCAT15
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 2019

                    #10
                    [QUOTE=Will Lavender;n34249]
                    Originally posted by JFCats22
                    – Allow instant replay of shots made after shot clock goes off[/QUOTE]

                    *sick feeling in pit of stomach*

                    What a freakin concept....now I am just sitting here furious again!

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                    • Spiritof96
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 13503

                      #11
                      Good changes.
                      Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                      ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                      Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                      No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                      RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                      • Lighthouse
                        Gone But Never Forgotten
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 35962

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Will Lavender
                        This is still breaking and I haven't seen a link, but the D1 rules committee has suggested quite a few rules changes, almost all of which are surely to go in next year.

                        Shot clock will be moved down to 30.
                        Timeouts will go from 5 to 4, with no more than 3 allowed to be carried over to the second half.
                        The coach will no longer be allowed to call a "bail-out" timeout to save a possession.
                        Closely guarded 5-second call will be removed.
                        If a timeout is called 30 seconds or less before a TV timeout, that timeout becomes the TV timeout.
                        Dunking will now be allowed in warm-ups.
                        Floppers will be assessed technical fouls, as the rules stipulate.

                        All very good and necessary changes.
                        Some folks look at rule changes totally from a Fans perspective and not how they effect the game itself. Not you Will, but some. IMO, changes should never be made to satisfy fans or TV, but we all know this happens. Here's my take on these proposed changes and others that need to be.

                        The shot clock, both TO changes and dunking during warm-ups are fine.
                        I don't understand elimination of the 5-second closely guarded count because it was put in to keep teams from holding the ball and making a boring game.
                        Not allowing a coach to call a live-ball TO will put the game back several years because sometimes players can't hear their coach in a competitive game.
                        It's about time the Flop rule becomes an emphasis so Officials will pay more attention. I like the back court count not being reset to ten after a TO.
                        I also don't understand reducing a "hanging on the rim" penalty reduced to one shot. If they call that violation with any consistency, it would stop and there would be no shot. The new way might make it worse.
                        Emphasis on resumption of play coming out of a TO is mentioned because the Officials didn't lay the ball on the floor and begin the 5-second count, and the coaches took advantage.
                        The principal of verticality change is very necessary.
                        Allowing monitor review of a shot after the shot clock horn has sounded is a good change.

                        I would still like an emphasis on walking and palming. These rules not being called as written, puts the defense at a huge disadvantage because kids are using especially palming a lot..
                        John 3:3

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                        • Joneslab
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 39604

                          #13
                          The 5-second call being taken out is strange. Not sure why they would do that.

                          As far as rules being good for TV and to satisfy fans: I think everything should be geared for the viewer and TV and the people who are there. That's why these sports exist. They're not theoretical exercises--they're only entertainment.

                          This is why the game should be fun to watch most of all. Every rule should be aimed to that end. High-scoring, (much) less physicality, up and down...too often college basketball becomes a grind.

                          It's blamed on officials a lot, but coaches do a lot of that stuff because they think that's the only shot they have to win.

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                          • Lighthouse
                            Gone But Never Forgotten
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 35962

                            #14
                            I agree the game has become entertainment like the NBA. When I played, and began watching games on TV, there was a huge difference between College games, which was geared toward the student/athlete and competition, and the NBA, which was totally entertainment. Now the college game has lost most of it's emphasis on student/athlete competition, and moved to almost mirror the NBA. I think this has hurt the college game, and we as fans would enjoy the old college game again, if they would just enforce the college rules as written.

                            I certainly don't want to return to the days of Dean Smith's and UT slow games, but the game we watch now isn't as interesting as it used to be. Call it entertaining if you want to, but it's a way to much different entertainment to me.

                            I know players are much bigger and faster than they use to be, but allowing a player to palm the ball and take an extra step to make his outstanding move, has taken the best part of competition out.
                            John 3:3

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                            • Joneslab
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 39604

                              #15
                              Love ya Lighthouse but that sounds like the argument people have always made about pro baseball.

                              I.e. that the game used to be pure and that guys would play for the love of the game and that it was not tied to big money and astronomical contracts.

                              What you really learn though when you read about those players is that they roundly hated the system, they were always trying to get more money, and that most of them would cheat their own mothers to find a way to get a higher salary.

                              These sports are about the pleasure of watching them. It can be about the student-athlete in intramural ball. These games are just like movies and music: they're deviations. They bring a lot to the players who play them--I wouldn't be the same person had I not played sports--but the game doesn't have to radically change simply because the rules change.

                              You move the shot clock five seconds down. You widen the lane. You do all these things, but it's the same game. It doesn't rip the soul out of the sport to make these changes. In fact in my mind it makes the game more pure, because the version we've seen the last few years is driving a lot of people away from this sport we love.

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