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Rumors circulating about Cal and Texas (UPDATE: Shaka to Marquette)

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  • Dwight Schrute
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 18716

    #106
    I agree that UK fans should be careful what they wish for, but this idea that Cal is irreplaceable is nonsense. The guy has gotten owned by Rick Barnes the last few years.

    Cal can go or stay - I would love to see him right the ship. But the idea we'd just be boned is a load of crap.

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    • Dwight Schrute
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 18716

      #107
      Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt
      I don’t think anyone is under either delusion, Crazzed. We’ve all expressed those very concerns as nauseam right here on this board. You’ve been a part of many of those conversations.
      He's wrung his hands comparing him to Tubby Smith. I'm not interested in him calling people idiots now that they agree with him.

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      • DA#23
        Administrator
        • Oct 2014
        • 7342

        #108
        Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

        He's wrung his hands comparing him to Tubby Smith. I'm not interested in him calling people idiots now that they agree with him.
        Bingo. Crazzed likes to get reactions at times, and this is one such example. He literally plays both sides of the aisle.

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        • Joneslab
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 39604

          #109
          More than a particular coach being an upgrade, I worry with Cal that it's more about his general methodology has run out.

          The one-and-done, recruit-the-best-of-the-best thing has obviously not worked. And Cal isn't the only one who has been burned; I think a bunch of big-time coaches were burned this year.

          I sort of wonder if we're seeing the end of that experiment and a move toward experience, skill, teamsmanship, etc.

          Cal was always a better coach than his detractors claimed. But he was clearly involved in an experiment at UK, and as much as him being burnt out I worry that the experiment may have hit an unrepairable snag.

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          • Joneslab
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 39604

            #110
            Originally posted by Will Lavender

            The one-and-done, recruit-the-best-of-the-best thing has obviously not worked.
            To clarify, I mean that it did not work this year. And it hasn't worked as well recently as it did. (Though I still say he has "won big" recently.)

            Cal still has a legacy here even if he left for Texas today. The problem is there was a time when the legacy looked as strong as anyone's except Adolph Rupp's. Now the legacy looks a bit flimsy given what we just went through.

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            • Dwight Schrute
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 18716

              #111
              Originally posted by matt colvin

              Bingo. Crazzed likes to get reactions at times, and this is one such example. He literally plays both sides of the aisle.
              There's value in that, just not when you call the people idiots on the other side of you.

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              • JFCats22
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 4210

                #112
                Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

                He's wrung his hands comparing him to Tubby Smith. I'm not interested in him calling people idiots now that they agree with him.
                I have never once said Cal should leave or be fired....have I criticized him and been disappointed the past few seasons, heck yeah. That's totally different than "bashing" or "hating" or whatever other nonsense you want to throw out there.

                I stand by my statement, anyone who thinks Cal could leave tomorrow and UK would have no problem hiring a suitable replacement are idiots.

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                • DA#23
                  Administrator
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 7342

                  #113
                  We have both whiffed on the elite players and also have had some key misses when it comes to evaluation. Worse yet is that a few of those guys left quickly and seemed to give some credence to the idea that this staff isn't excellent with player development...at least not anymore.

                  People seem to view the UK program for what it is: you can go there, do your thing, then go get paid.

                  It's not the gold standard of college basketball anymore, because as has been said on here ad nauseam, we did have returnees at one point. That's where the foundation basically became unpredictable.

                  I don't want Calipari to leave per se, but I also don't want him simply to go downhill until 2024 when his secondary retirement begins. Assistant AD making more than the AD currently makes. Nice....

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                  • Matt Dillon
                    Administrator
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 49618

                    #114
                    Originally posted by 40bill
                    ^^^^no...in fact the more we talk about it and think about it, this is a move that actually is a pretty sound idea, especially if the coach is at a point where money doesnt matter. Already in the hall of fame, taken three teams to the final four, been ranked number one in the nation with all three, and with his salary over the last years surely has plenty stashed away. Kids are grown, and the atmosphere in Lexington isnt nearly as welcoming as it used to be.

                    could well happen.
                    I also wonder if this is the reason Powell hasn't committed, to us, yet? Cal could have told him he's considering taking the Texas job and, if so, he wants Powell to follow him there.
                    Philippians 4:11-4:13

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                    • JFCats22
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 4210

                      #115
                      Originally posted by Matt Dillon

                      I also wonder if this is the reason Powell hasn't committed, to us, yet? Cal could have told him he's considering taking the Texas job and, if so, he wants Powell to follow him there.
                      I don't think so. Powell cannot commit to UK because the SEC rule in place wouldn't let him play immediately.

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                      • GOCAT15
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 2019

                        #116
                        Has the SEC made a decision on the transfer rule?

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                        • Joneslab
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 39604

                          #117
                          Originally posted by matt colvin
                          It's not the gold standard of college basketball anymore
                          Neither is Duke.

                          The only interesting thing about that is just 24 months ago, Duke and Coach K were lauded as kind of perfecting the college game and having one of the best teams of the modern era.

                          Now we're sort of sitting out there with them in a kind of college basketball purgatory.

                          It's crazy how quickly things change in this game.

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                          • Matt Dillon
                            Administrator
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 49618

                            #118
                            To be quiet honest, I don't much care what he does. This is like Rick Pitino all over again. It's almost become a springtime rite of passage that he's rumored to be going somewhere then he has to release a statement that he isn't leaving and even then some of the BBN don't exhale until they see him on the sidelines coaching in the fall.
                            Philippians 4:11-4:13

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                            • Matt Dillon
                              Administrator
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 49618

                              #119
                              Originally posted by GOCAT15
                              Has the SEC made a decision on the transfer rule?
                              Not to my knowledge.
                              Philippians 4:11-4:13

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                              • Dwight Schrute
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 18716

                                #120
                                Originally posted by JFCats22

                                I have never once said Cal should leave or be fired....have I criticized him and been disappointed the past few seasons, heck yeah. That's totally different than "bashing" or "hating" or whatever other nonsense you want to throw out there.

                                I stand by my statement, anyone who thinks Cal could leave tomorrow and UK would have no problem hiring a suitable replacement are idiots.
                                Sure, crazzed. You're not trying to play both sides of the aisle here at all.

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