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  • lilproUK98
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 2472

    #76
    Duke loses to 11-15 Wake. REMAINS at 6 in the NET. All these rankings are frauds

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    • Joneslab
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 39604

      #77
      Originally posted by Dwight Schrute
      Kentucky's inability to blow out anyone coupled with the Evansville loss is the biggest hindrance, IMO.
      The committee has said in the past they don't really look at margin of victory, but I'm sure they do.

      Kentucky is winning by an average of 9.2 points a game, which is 22nd in the nation. They get double digit leads in most every game but don't extend those leads well. I blame some of this on Calipari, who is I think trying to slow the game down more than he usually does because he's convinced this team (a) turns the ball over too much and is thus dangerous with leads, and (b) shoots free throws at a historic clip, so it's really hard to beat them in close games.

      For the sake of reference, last year's team won by an average of 11 points a game, 17th in the nation.

      The last six champions:

      Virginia '19: 15 points a game
      Villanova '18: 16 points a game
      North Carolina '17: 13 points a game
      Villanova '16: 14 points a game
      Duke '15: 15 points a game
      Connecticut '14: 9 points a game

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      • lilproUK98
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 2472

        #78
        Originally posted by Will Lavender

        The committee has said in the past they don't really look at margin of victory, but I'm sure they do.

        Kentucky is winning by an average of 9.2 points a game, which is 22nd in the nation. They get double digit leads in most every game but don't extend those leads well. I blame some of this on Calipari, who is I think trying to slow the game down more than he usually does because he's convinced this team (a) turns the ball over too much and is thus dangerous with leads, and (b) shoots free throws at a historic clip, so it's really hard to beat them in close games.

        For the sake of reference, last year's team won by an average of 11 points a game, 17th in the nation.

        The last six champions:

        Virginia '19: 15 points a game
        Villanova '18: 16 points a game
        North Carolina '17: 13 points a game
        Villanova '16: 14 points a game
        Duke '15: 15 points a game
        Connecticut '14: 9 points a game

        https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-ba...ate=2020-02-26
        This team is very much like the 14 UConn team, but probably slightly better.

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        • Dwight Schrute
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 18716

          #79
          Originally posted by Will Lavender

          The committee has said in the past they don't really look at margin of victory, but I'm sure they do.

          Kentucky is winning by an average of 9.2 points a game, which is 22nd in the nation. They get double digit leads in most every game but don't extend those leads well. I blame some of this on Calipari, who is I think trying to slow the game down more than he usually does because he's convinced this team (a) turns the ball over too much and is thus dangerous with leads, and (b) shoots free throws at a historic clip, so it's really hard to beat them in close games.

          For the sake of reference, last year's team won by an average of 11 points a game, 17th in the nation.

          The last six champions:

          Virginia '19: 15 points a game
          Villanova '18: 16 points a game
          North Carolina '17: 13 points a game
          Villanova '16: 14 points a game
          Duke '15: 15 points a game
          Connecticut '14: 9 points a game

          https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-ba...ate=2020-02-26
          I should say that's why the computers don't like us.

          But the average margin of victory stat is pretty telling.

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          • Joneslab
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 39604

            #80
            Originally posted by lilproUK98
            Duke loses to 11-15 Wake. REMAINS at 6 in the NET. All these rankings are frauds
            West Virginia is 3-8 on the road and is somehow 16th. West Virginia also has one fewer Quadrant 1 win than Kentucky does and is ranked three spots higher. That...makes no sense.

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            • Joneslab
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 39604

              #81
              Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

              I should say that's why the computers don't like us.
              The computers really hammered us for what we did early. Awful schedule, lost to two bad teams, played atrocious in late November and through December.

              We have never really dug ourselves out of that hole. But we win this game on Saturday and I think we're positioned as well as anybody for a 2 seed. I never in a million years thought I'd say that about this team. Outside the great NCAA run with the twins, this is the most surprising season of the Cal era.

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              • TrueblueCATfan
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 16273

                #82
                Originally posted by lilproUK98
                Duke loses to 11-15 Wake. REMAINS at 6 in the NET. All these rankings are frauds
                I agree....couldn't believe they only fell 1 spot in the polls after getting blown out by 22 points last week

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                • lilproUK98
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 2472

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Will Lavender

                  The computers really hammered us for what we did early. Awful schedule, lost to two bad teams, played atrocious in late November and through December.

                  We have never really dug ourselves out of that hole. But we win this game on Saturday and I think we're positioned as well as anybody for a 2 seed. I never in a million years thought I'd say that about this team. Outside the great NCAA run with the twins, this is the most surprising season of the Cal era.
                  As I do EVERY year, I tried to talk about the positives, and the fact that it was November, and yadda yadda yadda, but everyone was so doom and gloom I pretty much stopped posting for December and January, but here we are, playing solid basketball and all those pieces I knew were there and potential I knew was there is coming to the surface. I wanted Cal so badly to start the three guards as soon as I saw this team on the floor, but he was determined to make Whitney or Brooks work at the three. I'm elated that IQ made it impossible for him to not make that change. I believe if we start the year like that we have 2 less losses and are primed for a 1 seed.

                  But, regardless, I like my team. As I always have.

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                  • Joneslab
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 39604

                    #84
                    Quickley has definitely changed the team. His emergence has really made all the difference, because you now have a failsafe for when Maxey is off.

                    For Kentucky to beat really good teams you probably need them all going--Hagans, Maxey, Quickley, Richards, and one of the PF's--at the same time, but we haven't seen that a lot this season. Or really at all.

                    But they know how to win, they hit free throws which is huge, and now they have a legitimate star at shooting guard. We're positioned as well for March as anybody not named Kansas.

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                    • lilproUK98
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 2472

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Will Lavender

                      West Virginia is 3-8 on the road and is somehow 16th. West Virginia also has one fewer Quadrant 1 win than Kentucky does and is ranked three spots higher. That...makes no sense.
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                      • JFCats22
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 4210

                        #86
                        ^
                        I was a big fan of the NET when it was introduced. However, it continues to show this year that is is severely flawed (if not completely broken). It is making no sense at all.

                        The biggest problem is that the NCAA won't release the formula behind it which makes it very suspect.

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                        • KCKUKFan
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 14228

                          #87
                          This season has shown the inherent flaws with the computer rankings. In a year with this much upheaval and (ugh) parity, the computers dont know what to do.

                          This is a year for the eye test and I feel like the committee will end up relying on that more so than the NET or KenPom or whatever.

                          Kentucky is in good shape for a 2 at the moment and you cant tell me otherwise.

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                          • lilproUK98
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 2472

                            #88
                            Duke also only dropped one spot in kenpom. And their defensive efficiency was barely affected after giving up 113 points to an 11-15 team. Lol flawed

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                            • lilproUK98
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 2472

                              #89
                              Originally posted by KCKUKFan
                              This season has shown the inherent flaws with the computer rankings. In a year with this much upheaval and (ugh) parity, the computers dont know what to do.

                              This is a year for the eye test and I feel like the committee will end up relying on that more so than the NET or KenPom or whatever.

                              Kentucky is in good shape for a 2 at the moment and you cant tell me otherwise.
                              Facts.

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                              • Joneslab
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 39604

                                #90
                                Originally posted by KCKUKFan
                                This season has shown the inherent flaws with the computer rankings. In a year with this much upheaval and (ugh) parity, the computers dont know what to do.

                                This is a year for the eye test and I feel like the committee will end up relying on that more so than the NET or KenPom or whatever.

                                Kentucky is in good shape for a 2 at the moment and you cant tell me otherwise.
                                Yeah, I agree.

                                This is why you worry about Evansville. It was a game that settled in a lot of people's minds.

                                Not that I think it'll matter much. Nobody should worry about seed too much this season. The only thing that would be outrageous is if we're clearly a 2/3 but they put us in that 4 slot to set up a marquee game with Kansas in the second round.

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