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  • Ratt
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 816

    #106
    Originally posted by JFCats22

    You are in the VERY small minority.

    I criticize Cal and want him to make some pretty big changes but thinking UK could do better than what Cal has done/will do is pretty silly.
    WHO??? Who would you want that you believe is so much better all around than Cal???? I complain, belly-ache, get PO'ed and yell at the TV like anyone but there is no way I want Cal gone. There's not a coach out there that I would want other than maybe Brad Stevens. Although I have to admit - Cronin is doing a great job at UL with what he came into but I don't think he's anything overly special or that much better than Cal.

    As people has stated - this is the best decade that I can recall ever in UK basketball... KC stated some great points. I love the culture he's brought. I love the number of UK players that are in the NBA and having success. I love that kids want to come to UK and try to get to the NBA... That's the whole point of college isn't it? It's to get kids prepared for their profession. However - sure I wished he would sometimes do some things different in games offensively and defensively as well as recruiting. I don't want him recruiting lesser talent. I want him recruiting more talent, more needs. I love this Freshman from Oak Hill that ended up going to Illinois of all schools (Kofi ****************burn). He's 7' and 290lbs. He's was ranked 46 in the nation. Guy is a load and is averaging 15pts a game. UK didn't even look at him? How can you not - you came into the year with Richards and EJ. You play in a physical SEC conference. This guy would have been a great addition. But instead - there are 5 or 6 small white guys on the end of the bench that will never play. That to me is all on Cal and is totally unacceptable. Little things like that is what needs to change.

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    • Matt Dillon
      Administrator
      • Oct 2014
      • 49617

      #107
      My two cents worth is accept things the way they are and forget about Cal making changes. He seems pretty inflexible to me. I don't expect any major changes from him.
      Philippians 4:11-4:13

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      • KCKUKFan
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 14228

        #108
        Originally posted by Ratt

        WHO??? Who would you want that you believe is so much better all around than Cal???? I complain, belly-ache, get PO'ed and yell at the TV like anyone but there is no way I want Cal gone. There's not a coach out there that I would want other than maybe Brad Stevens. Although I have to admit - Cronin is doing a great job at UL with what he came into but I don't think he's anything overly special or that much better than Cal.
        I think crazzed was actually saying that there isn't anybody that could do what Cal has done/will do.

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        • TrueblueCATfan
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 16268

          #109
          I certainly do not want Cal to leave.....he is good for UK basketball ...he is good for this state......but I am very frustrated this season but will not give up on this team
          Last edited by TrueblueCATfan; 12-23-2019, 02:42 PM.

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          • Uncle Dave
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 1979

            #110
            Originally posted by TrueblueCATfan
            Dear Nick Richards......how do you not get any rebounds
            I can go to the boards stronger than Nick Richards. I can also catch the basketball better than him too.

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            • 85 Fly
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2015
              • 1297

              #111
              As some of you know I'm considered a "newbie BBN fam" (I came in with Cal, 11 seasons), but I'm reading the OGs valid complaints in this thread and all I can say is hold on 2022/2023 will be here soon enough and you will get your wish. Most, if not all, one-and-dones will not attend the blue blood programs or well known basketball schools and college basketball will get back to developing players that will stick around at least 3 years.

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              • justford
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 4669

                #112
                Originally posted by Uncle Dave

                I can go to the boards stronger than Nick Richards. I can also catch the basketball better than him too.
                As most knowledgeable basketball people know, rebounding has a lot to do with wanting to rebound the ball. Nick has never really shown that desire.

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                • SCBlu
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 1016

                  #113
                  Originally posted by JFCats22
                  ^
                  Richards and EJ combined for 6 points and 5 rebounds.

                  That’s disgraceful and they should be ashamed with their performance.
                  Oh My! That's absolutely unacceptable....even if it was the stat for just one of them. (And we were worried that EJ would go pro...HAH!)

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                  • Lighthouse
                    Gone But Never Forgotten
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 35962

                    #114
                    Originally posted by Ratt

                    WHO??? Who would you want that you believe is so much better all around than Cal???? I complain, belly-ache, get PO'ed and yell at the TV like anyone but there is no way I want Cal gone. There's not a coach out there that I would want other than maybe Brad Stevens. Although I have to admit - Cronin is doing a great job at UL with what he came into but I don't think he's anything overly special or that much better than Cal.

                    As people has stated - this is the best decade that I can recall ever in UK basketball... KC stated some great points. I love the culture he's brought. I love the number of UK players that are in the NBA and having success. I love that kids want to come to UK and try to get to the NBA... That's the whole point of college isn't it? It's to get kids prepared for their profession. However - sure I wished he would sometimes do some things different in games offensively and defensively as well as recruiting. I don't want him recruiting lesser talent. I want him recruiting more talent, more needs. I love this Freshman from Oak Hill that ended up going to Illinois of all schools (Kofi ****************burn). He's 7' and 290lbs. He's was ranked 46 in the nation. Guy is a load and is averaging 15pts a game. UK didn't even look at him? How can you not - you came into the year with Richards and EJ. You play in a physical SEC conference. This guy would have been a great addition. But instead - there are 5 or 6 small white guys on the end of the bench that will never play. That to me is all on Cal and is totally unacceptable. Little things like that is what needs to change.
                    I think you quoted the wrong poster. JFCats22 wasn't asking for Cal to leave or retire, that was Jload. I agree Cal needs to make some changes, especially begin to pay some attention to kids who are not only shooters, but those who hit shots, and Big Strong inside players. I sure don't want Cal to leave because he is good for our program. One thing I wonder some times. Would Cal be as good of a coach if he had 4 year players instead of one and done's?
                    John 3:3

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                    • Ratt
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 816

                      #115
                      Originally posted by 85 Fly
                      As some of you know I'm considered a "newbie BBN fam" (I came in with Cal, 11 seasons), but I'm reading the OGs valid complaints in this thread and all I can say is hold on 2022/2023 will be here soon enough and you will get your wish. Most, if not all, one-and-dones will not attend the blue blood programs or well known basketball schools and college basketball will get back to developing players that will stick around at least 3 years.
                      And to me, that will be when college basketball will be as bad as this year or more so... All of the great talent that we are at least getting to watch and cheer for will bypass college and most will go and get lost in the G league.

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                      • Ratt
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 816

                        #116
                        Originally posted by Lighthouse

                        I think you quoted the wrong poster. JFCats22 wasn't asking for Cal to leave or retire, that was Jload. I agree Cal needs to make some changes, especially begin to pay some attention to kids who are not only shooters, but those who hit shots, and Big Strong inside players. I sure don't want Cal to leave because he is good for our program. One thing I wonder some times. Would Cal be as good of a coach if he had 4 year players instead of one and done's?
                        I did quote the wrong poster - my bad...

                        I've been watching some older UK games on YouTube lately and watching some of Pitino teams. What excitement those teams brought to the game. They were pressing their tails off with guys that have no where near the athletic ability that Cal's team has. Dent was the lead - Richards isn't good but he is long and fast. They were pressing with Prickett, Ford, and Brassow - those guys were not even close to the athletes you got today... I would love to see Cal take this team for a game or two and just press the hell out of someone. It will never happen but would be fun to see if they could do it. They give up easy shots now so a few easy ones while pressing wouldn't be any different.

                        I won't go into the status of the crowd. Rupp needs a massive makeover.

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                        • Jload
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 2057

                          #117
                          Yes it was I and I alone who said I wish Cal would retire, don’t like where he has brought us and don’t like the current culture at UK. I know that goes against the grain on here but I am not alone in wanting a change and if you guys think I am you just are not paying attention to what folks out in the commonwealth are saying. And for everyone saying Cal needs to make major changes to how he does things WHEN in the 11 years he has been here have you seen him do that. With a lifetime contract what incentive does he have to change anything

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                          • Lighthouse
                            Gone But Never Forgotten
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 35962

                            #118
                            Originally posted by Jload
                            Yes it was I and I alone who said I wish Cal would retire, don’t like where he has brought us and don’t like the current culture at UK. I know that goes against the grain on here but I am not alone in wanting a change and if you guys think I am you just are not paying attention to what folks out in the commonwealth are saying. And for everyone saying Cal needs to make major changes to how he does things WHEN in the 11 years he has been here have you seen him do that. With a lifetime contract what incentive does he have to change anything
                            First, as far as I can see, you are alone on this site so why bring it up? Second, what does Cal have for incentive? He has a HUGE dislike for losing games!
                            John 3:3

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                            • Jload
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 2057

                              #119
                              Well tell me Lighthouse is this a site where we discuss UK basketball or is it something else. Heck man if you don’t like my opinions and wish I would shut up just come out and say so,it will not be the first time someone didn’t like what I had to say I will say however I find nothing in the site guidelines that say posts are subject to Lighthouse approval

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                              • J.Jennings
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 7005

                                #120
                                For all thos who like Cal dislike Cal whatever it may be,keep in mind this site this group is just a small drop in the bucket. In the real world, people getting sick and tired of John Calipari here at Kentucky, the thrill is gone and this marriage has ran its course, people just not watching and enthused by all of this anymore myself included, I read about it every day. You think I will give up 2 hours of my valuable time to watch Junk basketball or a coach who refuses to coach or adjust? I will watch the Louisville game then I am out, call it what you want fair weather fan i don't care, i ain't watching this garbage anymore...

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