LSU Goes Down, Duke Goes Down, Zion Goes Down

[Joneslab]

Honestly, could care less about the seeding, we play how we are capable and we win, that includes Duke!!!

Doesn't matter a whole lot if you're in the top three but you want your team to be playing its best leading into the tournament. If they're playing their best and are in a good league, they'll obviously be rewarded with one of those top seeds.

Kentucky's in a weird situation all of a sudden with the Travis injury but that's sort of the price you pay for playing in a relatively strong league. In years past having a guy injured wouldn't have really been a worry. With UK's remaining schedule you can see some weirdness happening if Travis can't go.

Again, I think we should get credit for having to play with a critical injury but you never know what they're going to do on Selection Sunday.

[KCKUKFan]

No, what the hell are you talking about? Every freaking thing I post you have a problem with. I know you are smarter and know more about basketball than everyone else here so why don’t you just stop replying????

you don’t think that UNC is now a threat to take a 2 seed (or a 1 seed)?

UK is likely not winning out, especially with Travis out for a while.

UNC is creeping up again and now has a nice resume, rankings/computers seem to love Mich St, and Michigan is right there as well. All I said is that it would be good for UK if those teams lost a game or two.

Why is that so crazy and outlandish???

It was crazy and outlandish because you said that Kentucky NEEDED those other teams to lose in order to keep a two seed, which is nonsense. Kentucky isn't losing out, or anything close to it. And those teams will probably drop one or two as well. Add that to the fact that nearly every post you make on this board and Rupp's Rafters is tinted with a shade of pessimism, and it's hard to take you seriously sometimes.

When EVERYBODY on the boards know you as the resident pessimist, maybe it's you. Try to enjoy Kentucky basketball. It makes it a lot more fun. Sitting at a computer and crunching numbers and statistics seems like a futile and silly waste of time. What will happen will happen, and ultimately, Kentucky will be fine.

[Joneslab]

Crazzed is one of those guys who brings an almost aggressive style of pessimism.

I think it might be a psychological tool or something akin to not getting your hopes up, but on message boards it can play as very stultifying...

...particularly when you're watching a really good Kentucky team, which we are. This wouldn't be any fun if everybody came to the board in rah-rah mode but there is also the opposite of cheerleading, which can come off as the poster trying too hard when you've got the #4 team in America.

Which begs the question: why would a person try hard to put their own team down? As I said, has to be about not letting your hopes get too high or something.

[Lighthouse]

Because I feel like you're outrageously, and unnecessarily, pessimistic.

And this sums it up for most on here!

[J.Jennings]

Well if we are going to play devil's advocate and be pessimistic about things then let's be honest, one title in 10 years is not what some of us thought we was getting with Cal when he came here, especially with the star studded classes he has had. For some schools what Cal has done at Kentucky would be a mass overachievement but for us, i t hink many of us actually have expected more and have been let down more times than not which could lead to the paranoya and perception that all the stars have to align for us to have a shot. It's easy to get down sometimes even while we are winning, we had a epic meltdown against Wisconsin, we have missed on star after star the past few years, Cal is nowhere close to the UCLA championships he promised when he came here..

With that being said, i love our team and even if we take another loss or two, i think we all know this year we actually have the horses to win it all especially when this team team is on top of it's game and rolling, we are a hard to stop machine. That Duke losss was horrible but it was also a fluke, we played as bad as we could play and Duke played about as good as they could, they absolutely are not 42 plus or 34 points better than us, heck (i really wanted to cuss lighthouse but giving you a day off from policing) to the no..


Anyways, me and CRAZZED never speak but at the end of the day, i respect the passion, i think he loves Kentucky basketball so much that it hurst when we lose, he wants what we all want and that's to win it all as much as possible while we have a great coach here at KENTUCKY, next coach may not be so good unless of course we get our guy Brad Stevens

[JFCats22]

And this sums it up for most on here!

There's like 5 people left that post here..."most" isn't really a hard level to achieve any longer.

"Most" on here think NCAA referees are complete trash, you don't (for some odd reason). Does that mean "most" are wrong?

[J.Jennings]

Doesn't matter a whole lot if you're in the top three but you want your team to be playing its best leading into the tournament. If they're playing their best and are in a good league, they'll obviously be rewarded with one of those top seeds.

Kentucky's in a weird situation all of a sudden with the Travis injury but that's sort of the price you pay for playing in a relatively strong league. In years past having a guy injured wouldn't have really been a worry. With UK's remaining schedule you can see some weirdness happening if Travis can't go.

Again, I think we should get credit for having to play with a critical injury but you never know what they're going to do on Selection Sunday.

We play how we can play, they can put us a 16th seed, i ain't worried about it...

[J.Jennings]

Let me break this seed stuff down into simple terms, IF WE HAVE ONE PLAYER OR COACH ON OUR TEAM WHO'S SCARED TO PLAY ANY TEAM AT ANY SEED, THAT'S A PROBLEM, A MAJOR PROBLEM!!!

Bottomline, we have to win 6 games regardless. Actually a disrepectful two or 3 seed could be a blessing in disguise, a motivating factor to prove the world wrong....

[Joneslab]

I sort of agree with the disrespected thing. Cal's teams have shown that they play better if they have a chip on their shoulder.

But it's no coincidence that Cal's only title team was a 1 seed. This doesn't mean that we're doomed if we don't get a 1 or 2, just means that you have the roster to win it and you're going to get the easiest path.

[Joneslab]

There's like 5 people left that post here..."most" isn't really a hard level to achieve any longer.

While true, I feel like we've been talking about your pessimism here and on the other board for many years at this point.

I don't think you're trolling per se, but you have to admit it's a pretty close cousin to trolling. I've always wondered if you get a kick out of reading the room and then trying to bring people down somehow.

As I said above, sometimes I don't know what you're talking about because it seems so out of whack with a take that a fan would actually have. It's the equivalent sometimes (maybe most of the time) of someone who's searching for the negative.

[J.Jennings]

The good news is '"WE GOING TO BE ALRIIGHT" unless it's a Tubby Smith Gerald FItch UAB loss then breaking loose round here (Southern Louisiana man at the radio station in the movie o brouther art thou voice)

[justford]

With or without Zion Duke can't shoot.

The "Zion should shut down for the season" talk will probably escalate after his injury.

[JFCats22]

While true, I feel like we've been talking about your pessimism here and on the other board for many years at this point.

I don't think you're trolling per se, but you have to admit it's a pretty close cousin to trolling. I've always wondered if you get a kick out of reading the room and then trying to bring people down somehow.

As I said above, sometimes I don't know what the hell you're talking about because it seems so out of whack with a take that a fan would actually have. It's the equivalent sometimes (maybe most of the time) of someone who's searching for the negative.

You think it's out of whack to think teams around us need to lose to help our seeding? Travis got hurt and is out for 3-4 games at least. We are likely not winning at UT next weekend and this Saturday isn't a given either. At Ole Miss is tough as well. It's not crazy to think UK could easily lose 2 games while Travis is out.

The NCAA isn't going to give UK any breaks if we lose while he is gone.

So yes, I will say it again, UK needs UNC, Michigan, Mich St, etc...to lose a game or two to make sure we stay in line for a 2 seed.

If that's crazy or "I don't know what you are talking about" type stuff then so be it I guess.

[Joneslab]

You think it's out of whack to think teams around us need to lose to help our seeding?

Do you deny that you always seem to be looking for the negative angle when you post?

That single post in a vacuum probably doesn't mean much and without a name attached to it most people would've shrugged and dismissed it. But I haven't seen you post on this board this season more than a couple of times unless it's been something pretty rough on the team.

What's that about do you think? Because I'm looking around and almost nobody else does that.

[J.Jennings]

The "Zion should shut down for the season" talk will probably escalate after his injury.

I gave Cal a little heat because of the chant thang on Saturday but NC fans are printing shirts with a shoe that says blowout with the score of the game last night, that's bad if you ask me.

As for Zion, funny Zion mentioned last week he would never let his team down and sit but now after this, who knows.

As much as i dislike Duke and get tired of hearing about Zion, i actually think Zion is a great down to earth grounded kid on and off the court and hoping he can heal up fast, college basketball is better with him playing this year....