Grayson Allen, Again

[KCKUKFan]

I'm going to be in the unfortunate situation on Saturday of actually rooting for Louisville.

I hope Louisville breaks them in half on Saturday, and I think they probably will.

Duke is in a very fragile place right now.

And was that statement supposed to be satire or was it real? If real, it's ridiculous.

[Dwight Schrute]

I'm going to be in the unfortunate situation on Saturday of actually rooting for Louisville.

Likewise.

[BJD]

I only root for UL if they are playing UNC or a tubby coached team. This one I hope ends in a tie.

[KCKUKFan]

or a tubby coached team

I think you need to get over it.

[BJD]

I think you need to get over it.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. My opinion is that you should take it more seriously instead of wanting me to get over it.

tubby stole UK basketball from a generation of UK fans. I won't be getting over that any time soon. Probably closer to never. So have a nice day!!

[KCKUKFan]

tubby stole UK basketball from a generation of UK fans.

I still don't understand the basis for this comment, which you've used before.

I didn't particularly care for his tenure here, but he didn't steal anything from me.

Billy Gillsipie might've stolen two years from a generation of UK fans, but Tubby didn't steal anything.

[BJD]

I still don't understand the basis for this comment, which you've used before.

I didn't particularly care for his tenure here, but he didn't steal anything from me.

Billy Gillsipie might've stolen two years from a generation of UK fans, but Tubby didn't steal anything.

That's where you're wrong. BCG was not the right hire for UK but he worked tirelessly to right the sinking ship that tubby left.

tubby is a lazy and a liar. Beside the fact that he couldn't coach. He put playing his son ahead of the good of the program. Then he lied about another player's illness in order to keep playing that son.

And he was historically bad. UK has never had a coach in our history that lost 10 games in 3 consecutive seasons. And he did that twice. We only had one other coach that lost 10 games in back to back seasons and that was BCG. And that's directly attributable to the tubby tenure.

[KCKUKFan]

That's where you're wrong. BCG was not the right hire for UK but he worked tirelessly to right the sinking ship that tubby left.

He worked tirelessly lifting his bourbon glass at karaoke bars and sticking his pickle in co-eds.

If you think BCG was better for UK than Tubby Smith, you're a moron. No offense.

[Joneslab]

Billy Gillispie was a mess. Personally, socially, and in basically every other way.

I do agree though that he was put behind the 8-ball by Tubby's last two or three years. That was obvious when you looked at the roster. The recruitment of Patterson and then Miller were huge moments in recent UK history, and Gillispie deserves at least some credit for that. Calipari reaped massive benefits from that just as Gillispie was saved by the inheritance of Jodie Meeks.

But there's never been a worse fit in big-time college sports. The guy was trying to bail out literally the first day he walked into Lexington. He knew he was in over his head, and things got monumentally worse from there.

There's no comparison between Tubby and Gillispie. It's insulting to everybody's intelligence to even go there. The guys Gillispie are in line with are scandal-plagued nobodies like Mike Rice.

[abroo588]

tubby stole UK basketball from a generation of UK fans.

I think you're mistaken. I agree that he did not have the same levels of success that Pitino, Hall and Rupp had. Only an idiot would argue otherwise.

However, I became a fan during Tubby's tenure as coach. I had observed them in the last year and a half under Pitino, but was not a "fan" per se. In '98, I watched and cheered for the Comeback Cats. I started rooting for them after that year, but I became a passionate fan in the 02-03 season. I admired what I saw in that team, and in OTS as a coach. If he stole UK basketball from my generation, then I must not be a fan.

BTW: I do agree that it was time for him to move on and even felt some relief when he did. He did not elevate the program, especially in the last two years. Cal, on the other hand has elevated it. No question. I'm glad he's here.

[Catatonic]

I started paying attention to college bball at the tail end of Pitino's era, but really it was those first few Tubby teams that I remember most vividly and cemented my super-fan status.

To say he stole UK basketball from "a generation of UK fans" would be offensive if it wasn't so laughably dismissible. He was here as a HC for what, 10 years? I suppose its possible there are some parts of Kentucky where the generations are only 10 years apart...

[Matt Dillon]

I don't why that coach wrote what he did. Allen doesn't deserve anything at this point. He should just stayed quiet and left Allen hanging in the wind like a pinata.

I suppose there's always the possibility he honestly feels that way.

[KCKUKFan]

It's comical how easily any and all threads can be hijacked by somebody mentioning the name Tubby Smith.

[85 Fly]

The guy acts like he is in fight mode all the time and ready to shove / kick / assault anyone in his way all the time. I am really hoping some 3 string goon on another team breaks his face.

Lmbo.... even Christian Laettner is shaking his head.

Sat will be the only time I have ever routed for Louiville.

[KevinHall]

Anyone who thinks BCG was a better fit for UK than Tubby is probably a racist and would have never accepted Tubby because of the color of his skin. Sad but IMO very true.