Les Miles Fired

[KCKUKFan]

Yep, the Bob Stoops who has a 79% winning percentage, 10 BCS bowls and a Championship.

Yep, the Les Miles who has a 72% winning percentage, 4 BCS bowls and a Championship.

Indeed, but like the Kentucky basketball job, there is a shelf life. Probably ten years tops, unless you're a special case like a Nick Saban who shows no signs of slowing or Petrino, who is in the perfect position to succeed year in and year out at Louisville.

I think we're seeing Bob Stoops coming to the end of his shelf life at Oklahoma, and Les Miles' already expired.

Hypothetical question is this: Petrino, Stoops and Miles all are in line at Kentucky. Who has the highest ceiling of the three? Who will win the most and fastest? I think the answer is obviously Petrino.

[KCKUKFan]

Of course he stays. He is giving Pitino all the competition he can handle for King of Da Ville. Why go to a school like LSU and have to play in a league where you play ranked teams week after week. AND are expected to win ALL of them. He sold his soul to The Bird school and Jurich. He isn't even thinking about giving up his royalty after all the stuff he has pulled.

It's the other way around: Bobby was in a no-other-options situation. Louisville sold their souls for Petrino (if there was a soul left). I only say that not because of his motorcycle wreck, but because he already burned them once.

[surveyor]

LSU fans will be sorely disappointed when their next coach can't muster 10 -11 win seasons and compete in the SEC as well as they did under Miles. Same will be true of Georgia fans and Kirby Smart.

Bob Stoops isn't even on the radar of hot-seats....................

http://coacheshotseat.com/

[KCKUKFan]

LSU fans will be sorely disappointed when their next coach can't muster 10 -11 win seasons and compete in the SEC as well as they did under Miles. Same will be true of Georgia fans and Kirby Smart.

Bob Stoops isn't even on the radar of hot-seats....................

http://coacheshotseat.com/

He's not on the hot seat, but having a number of big Sooner fan relatives who live in Oklahama, I can tell you that there is a real "eh" feeling as it pertains to Stoops. And that is being generous.

[KCKUKFan]

LSU fans will be sorely disappointed when their next coach can't muster 10 -11 win seasons and compete in the SEC as well as they did under Miles. Same will be true of Georgia fans and Kirby Smart.

Bob Stoops isn't even on the radar of hot-seats....................

http://coacheshotseat.com/

And if they can reel in Houston's head coach (and they probably will), they'll be back in the National Championship hunt immediately.

[surveyor]

And if they can reel in Houston's head coach (and they probably will), they'll be back in the National Championship hunt immediately.

I don't know that that's a given. Most years they were just a game from being in the mix. At this level, I think they'll potentially be the same - just a different man at the top. Just another manner in which to achieve the same result.

[KCKUKFan]

I don't know that that's a given. Most years they were just a game from being in the mix. At this level, I think they'll potentially be the same - just a different man at the top. Just another manner in which to achieve the same result.

See, I think you're giving too much credit to Miles. I think he's a fun character and he certainly had success, but I can think of numerous instances where HE blew games because of poor clock management, puzzling in-game decisions, unnecessary risks, etc. He was called the Mad Hatter for a reason.

Those sort of shenanigans can work if you're succeeding with them at a middle-of-the-road program like, say, Hal Mumme at Kentucky. At a program like LSU, it can make for dicey waters. And literally as soon as they were no longer in the championship hunt, they were ready to fry him. I think any other coach would've gotten the benefit of the doubt from that fan base, but LSU folks were just clamoring for a reason to hate Les Miles.

I'm just not sure he's a very good coach. He won with a LOT of in-state talent (with no other schools vying for the kids), and sometimes in spite of himself.

I would be willing to bet that if he came to Kentucky (he won't), he would be Bill Curry 2.0.

[surveyor]

See, I think you're giving too much credit to Miles. I think he's a fun character and he certainly had success, but I can think of numerous instances where HE blew games because of poor clock management, puzzling in-game decisions, unnecessary risks, etc. He was called the Mad Hatter for a reason.

Those sort of shenanigans can work if you're succeeding with them at a middle-of-the-road program like, say, Hal Mumme at Kentucky. At a program like LSU, it can make for dicey waters. And literally as soon as they were no longer in the championship hunt, they were ready to fry him. I think any other coach would've gotten the benefit of the doubt from that fan base, but LSU folks were just clamoring for a reason to hate Les Miles.

I'm just not sure he's a very good coach. He won with a LOT of in-state talent (with no other schools vying for the kids), and sometimes in spite of himself.

I would be willing to bet that if he came to Kentucky (he won't), he would be Bill Curry 2.0.

Sure, but they were still near misses, in spite of himself or not. LSU fans may end up with those same "almosts", just a different path to them.

[KCKUKFan]

Sure, but they were still near misses, in spite of himself or not. LSU fans may end up with those same "almosts", just a different path to them.

You could be right, but if Herman can be in the playoff hunt at Houston, of all places, he would have LSU in the championship hunt almost immediately. I see no reason why he wouldn't with their recruiting base, resources and facilities.

Back to what I was saying, I can't count the number of times I've watched an LSU game and seen some ridiculous stunt or mis-judgement by Les Miles (and not a player's failure or broken assignment -- literally Les Miles' fault) and shook my head. And I'm a Kentucky fan; we're practically the masters of buffoonery.

[catfaninin]

Indeed, but like the Kentucky basketball job, there is a shelf life. Probably ten years tops, unless you're a special case like a Nick Saban who shows no signs of slowing or Petrino, who is in the perfect position to succeed year in and year out at Louisville.

I think we're seeing Bob Stoops coming to the end of his shelf life at Oklahoma, and Les Miles' already expired.

Hypothetical question is this: Petrino, Stoops and Miles all are in line at Kentucky. Who has the highest ceiling of the three? Who will win the most and fastest? I think the answer is obviously Petrino.

Stoops had OU in the playoff series last year. Hardly seems like the end of his shelf life to me.

Given those 3 choices Petrino is a clear 3rd. Stoops and Miles have coached in incredibly difficult conferences and won championships doing it. Petrino has yet to sniff a championship.

[surveyor]

I think Herman has a great shot if LSU hires him, but it'll be interesting to see how much patience they'll have. Miles was 4+ years removed from COY honors.

[40bill]

JMO.... Les Miles had the great fortune of coaching and recruiting a football hothouse. He had the great misfortune of coaching in the same conference and same division as a guy that won big there as well.

Bad mix.

[Owllycat]

I read this morning on Nation of Blue that CBS Sports says UK is number 1 on list of possible schools he could end up at. Also said if he did come and change our program UK Fans would worship him. Give me a break they are in dreamland for sure. If hes good as people say he is why did he get fired?

[TrueblueCATfan]

I read this morning on Nation of Blue that CBS Sports says UK is number 1 on list of possible schools he could end up at. Also said if he did come and change our program UK Fans would worship him. Give me a break they are in dreamland for sure. If hes good as people say he is why did he get fired?

Exactly...If he can't win at LSU what makes anyone thing he could win here

[UK39]

Depends on how you define winning, winning at LSU is much different than winning at UK. While the expectations are much lower in Lexington, the difficulty of recruiting is much more difficult as well. I think he'll be able to recruit better and more and most importantly (unlike Stoops) develop 3 and 4 star recruits to where UK can get to a 7-8 win team compared to 4-5 wins (which is where I think Stoops' ceiling is). He'll have to hire a quality OC and develop a QB which was something he could not do.

It's not a guarantee that he'd bring the 7-8 wins to get UK to the next level but the odds are greater than what we've seen under Stoops in 3 1/2 seasons.