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  • J.Jennings
    Banned
    • Oct 2014
    • 7005

    #46
    Originally posted by Blue Heaven
    I have a friend who is a caddy at Valhalla and he says Petrino is a different person. He said a few years ago he wouldn't have even acknowledged him, or much anyone else. Says he is really polite and humble now.
    Yes his first time at Louisville when he lived in Lake Forest he was a complete A hole. Not sure how he is now but I know his first time around he was on a high horse for sure. Perhaps his media experience and backlash truly changed him. We all make mistakes, lord knows I have......

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    • Westtncat
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 2031

      #47
      I have never made a mistade.

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      • Matt Dillon
        Administrator
        • Oct 2014
        • 49625

        #48
        Originally posted by Westtncat
        I have never made a mistade.
        Especially a spelling mistake, right?
        Last edited by Matt Dillon; 09-19-2016, 01:29 PM.
        Philippians 4:11-4:13

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        • J.Jennings
          Banned
          • Oct 2014
          • 7005

          #49
          I do know one thing, it sucks to see Louisville football doing so well and UK football treading water to stay afloat. It's hard to get excited at this time but in a perfect world, I would love to see the Cards go undefeated and get knocked off by Kentucky at the end. It's a long season and anything can happen, not ready to throw in the towel just yet for sure......

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          • Westtncat
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 2031

            #50
            Originally posted by Matt Dillon

            Especially a spelling mistake, right?
            Correct you are sir.

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            • Blue Heaven
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 6283

              #51
              Originally posted by J.Jennings
              I do know one thing, it sucks to see Louisville football doing so well and UK football treading water to stay afloat. It's hard to get excited at this time but in a perfect world, I would love to see the Cards go undefeated and get knocked off by Kentucky at the end. It's a long season and anything can happen, not ready to throw in the towel just yet for sure......
              Unless Jackson gets hurt, which I am not hoping btw, UL would absolutely CRUSH us. Yes anything can happen. If I can see the defense I saw in the 2nd half the other night, then we MIGHT be able to knock off Vandy, Mizzou, and SC. I'm not throwing in the towel either. Last week I was calling for some heads, but I saw improvement this week. Sure it was against NMSU, but it was improvement nonetheless. Seemed the additions of Young and Stenberg helped the O Line. Snell looks like a beast, though I wanna see it against SEC teams. The secondary tightened up last week in the 2nd half but we MUST get better line and linebacker play.
              Isaiah 5:20

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              • Dwight Schrute
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 18716

                #52
                Originally posted by J.Jennings

                Let's be more clear. He beat Tubby Smith in front of a anti Tubby Smith desperate Rupp Arena crowd, literally fools gold... He was not the man, it was always Cal or Donovan in my opinion.........
                It was Rick Pitino, and the man took one of the worst programs in America and made them Big 12 champions, and did similar work st UTEP (I think - correct me if this is wrong).

                He was a popular guy at the time.

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                • teamchemistry15
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 7022

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Westtncat
                  I have never made a mistade.
                  I'm not sure if this would be funnier if you spelled it wrong on purpose or by accident. Either way I got a chuckle.

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                  • Westtncat
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 2031

                    #54
                    Originally posted by teamchemistry15

                    I'm not sure if this would be funnier if you spelled it wrong on purpose or by accident. Either way I got a chuckle.
                    Not to ruin the joke but it was on purpose.

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                    • catfaninin
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 2016

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

                      It was Rick Pitino, and the man took one of the worst programs in America and made them Big 12 champions, and did similar work st UTEP (I think - correct me if this is wrong).

                      He was a popular guy at the time.
                      This is correct. Beat Rick Pitino and UofL in Rupp Arena. Then came within a point of beating Memphis and John Calipari in the Sweet 16. He was definitely thought of as a rising star. Hard to believe the train wreck that turned into.

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                      • KevinHall
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 6857

                        #56
                        The only person I remember reading that didn't like the BCG hire was Andy Katz of ESPN. Katz said back then he didn't think BCG was a good fit at UK and was surprised UK hired him. At the time I just shrugged off his comments but in the end he was very correct.
                        Kentucky fan since 1971.

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                        • Joneslab
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 39604

                          #57
                          Originally posted by KevinHall
                          The only person I remember reading that didn't like the BCG hire was Andy Katz of ESPN. Katz said back then he didn't think BCG was a good fit at UK and was surprised UK hired him. At the time I just shrugged off his comments but in the end he was very correct.
                          Some of these media guys may have known the drinking problem was more severe.

                          The unusual thing about Stoops is that we've heard nothing about extracurricular stuff, at least not yet. Almost every time a coach begins to flail you'll hear stories--maybe true, mostly rumor-mill exaggeration--that suggests something's going on behind the scenes. Gillispie got that treatment; Joker did; even Tubby Smith caught a little (Donna).

                          The criticism about Stoops has remained squarely on the field so far. The only thing I hear people say about him that may be incendiary is that he may not be that sharp.

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                          • justafan
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 1407

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Will Lavender
                            The facilities thing is the only issue that's keeping Barnhart employed.

                            As far as hiring coaches he's been disastrous. Outside of places like Rutgers and Boston College, I'm not sure you could find another AD who's had such a monumental issue hiring major-sport coaches in the BCS.
                            .....
                            University of Tennessee on line 1.
                            Notre Dame still holding on line 2.
                            USC (west, not east) holding on line 3.
                            ....
                            Indiana called back for the 20th time.....

                            I could go on and on.

                            There have been monumental horrible hires all across the country.

                            UofL and Kragthorpe?? Anyone?

                            MB has his flubs, but he's hardly the horrible AD fanatics are making him out to be. He's definitely not the only AD to make a bad hire.
                            I remember people screaming at the time it was taking to hire a coach, yet then they turn around and scream because some dirt is dug up on said coach. Its a no win situation with fans.

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                            • Joneslab
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 39604

                              #59
                              I've always given Barnhart a pass, even with Gillispie. And then even with Joker, because it made sense in theory.

                              But Stoops, if we keep going down this path--that's just too many mistakes. There is no way we can give him another crack at hiring anyone. Too many chances blown.

                              Just giving someone chance after chance to make the right hire is sort of a "not learning from your own mistakes" situation. The dirt that's dug up on these guys, and their inability to actually perform, is the AD's responsibility. After Gillispie I pretty much thought Barnhart had been duped by a guy with real issues. But then he got duped again by Joker. And now possibly a third time by Stoops.

                              The carousel will have to stop at some point.

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                              • Joneslab
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 39604

                                #60
                                Originally posted by justafan
                                UofL and Kragthorpe?? Anyone?
                                The issue with that is that it's just one hire.

                                If Barnhart had just screwed up once, then you could look around at the other things he's done or been involved with--Cal and the basketball and football facilities being at the top of the list--and sort of just say, "You know, he messed up that one time, but he was able to get it back together with his next move."

                                And there's still time. Stoops could rewrite both his own and Barnhart's legacy.

                                But it's not looking good.

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