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Southern Miss. Yes, seriously......................................... ...........Originally posted by Matt Dillon
Seriously?Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.
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Can anyone explain to me what Stoops has DONE that would believe he is going to turn things around. Can't run, can't stop the run, epic second half collapses, YEAR 4. Everybody saying what's the panic we lost to a better team. Do people realize what they are saying, Southern Miss, Conference USA. Stoops is not getting it done ,not gonna get it done, my father was a high school coach began taking me to games in 60s, Other thann my stint in Navy I have attended at least 1 Uk game a year since mid 70's. Not this year, very disgusted just don't have the fire or desire to watch us SUCK yet another year. Need a dynamic AD to find us a coach and finally build us a program. Barnhart and Stoops are not those guys.Comment
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Did you think the '94 team would be fine? The '13 team? '12? '03, '04, '05? '00, '01? '96?This team will be fine. They can obviously score and have an elite secondary in the making. I know the run defense is going to be the Achilles heel, but they can still get to six wins. I expect Eliot to be gone by the end of the year unless he figures out how to make adjustments. But I've also thought that for now the third year. Gran, Hinshaw, and Stoops will do their part. We still have Miss St, NM St, A Peay, Missouri, Vandy, and South Carolina that are all winnable games. We are also known to play an expected loss to a close game. We might pull one shocker this year.
I like the DBs Stoops has brought in, but this may not even be a top 40 secondary nationally in terms of talent, or in the top half of SEC secondaries. It's a very good unit by UK's historical standards, but it isn't that great relative to other programs. Their abilities will be obscured by opponents' play calls this year, though, because teams are going to run the ball like crazy on this team. The run defense is far worse than an Achilles heel. The gates of Troy flung wide open is a closer analogy. If Southern Miss could run on them like that, a lot of SEC play is going to be embarrassing.
Agree that those games are winnable, but UK's defense is bad enough that even those teams with really weak offenses this year - all of them except maybe Mississippi State, and possibly Carolina later this year depending on how they progress - are capable of beating this team. And the second half offensive collapse - if that remains part of what UK does each weekend, kiss six wins goodbye.
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Brooks' loss to Ohio U. was in his second season. Opening Year 4 with a loss to Southern Miss doesn't indicate they're likely to win 8 games like Brooks' Year 4 team did.
Here's hoping, but if this team opens 3-5, they'll have to beat Georgia, win at Tennessee and at Louisville, and win a bowl game to get to 8 wins.
This was a really bad loss for this program.Comment
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I'm referencing the lack of patience, for the most part. The fans wanted Brooks gone in year two (they never really wanted him, anyway). The school stuck with him.
Brooks' loss to Ohio U. was in his second season. Opening Year 4 with a loss to Southern Miss doesn't indicate they're likely to win 8 games like Brooks' Year 4 team did.
Here's hoping, but if this team opens 3-5, they'll have to beat Georgia, win at Tennessee and at Louisville, and win a bowl game to get to 8 wins.
This was a really bad loss for this program.
I think a level of patience is warranted for a first time HC - moreso than in Phillips' case, who was the assistant head coach for a few seasons and was groomed by Brooks, only to wreck the car after being given the keys - granted, it was a 6 year old Impala, but a decent car nonetheless.
Stoops has to win at least 5 and be competitive in the remaining losses, or win 6 or more and have a blow-out or two.Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.
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I'll add that anytime a new coach is hired, he should at least be retained to the end of his original contract. Barnhart made a mistake with the extension.Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.
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All fair points. I think Stoops will be back no matter what because of the size of the buyout Barney unwisely gave him. He'll have to win six to avoid a half empty stadium next year though.
I'm referencing the lack of patience, for the most part. The fans wanted Brooks gone in year two (they never really wanted him, anyway). The school stuck with him.
I think a level of patience is warranted for a first time HC - moreso than in Phillips' case, who was the assistant head coach for a few seasons and was groomed by Brooks, only to wreck the car after being given the keys - granted, it was a 6 year old Impala, but a decent car nonetheless.
Stoops has to win at least 5 and be competitive in the remaining losses, or win 6 or more and have a blow-out or two.
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I agree. I think Mitch was a bit too excited seeing 5-1 ( I think alot of us were, too). At the time the contract was signed, UK was 5-3, with a hard fought 3OT loss to Florida AT Florida, but a horrible loss at LSU, followed by a respectable(?) loss to Miss State. After signing, losses continued to the end of the season.
Hindsight being what it is, Mitch should have waited until the season was over to decide on an extension.
Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.
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Not to mention recruiting. We've already started to see these recruits go elsewhere due to the fact that we haven't made a bowl yet.Comment
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I think this is spot on. I don't like the extensions before the contract is up. Let him work out his entire first contract and go from there because, as we've seen, that 5-1 turns to 5-7 pretty quickly.Comment
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Playing Devil's advocate here. If he had turned the program around he would had been a highly sought after coach considering his last name and that he turned the weak Kentucky program around.
That being said, I am against contract extensions based on short term results.Last edited by justford; 09-07-2016, 10:08 AM.Comment
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