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REPORT: Mark Stoops names Will Levis the starting QB for Kentucky

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  • Dwight Schrute
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 18716

    #31
    Originally posted by Sean

    Same reason I don't pay attention to football commitments anymore. Dedication, loyalty, and standing by your word went out of vogue long ago.
    I agree, but that has been the case as long as I've been a fan of college football. It also goes both ways, because programs pull offers all the time, especially if there's a coaching change. "Loyalty" is a myth and has been for a long, long time. Gatewood committed to UK under the impression he had a good chance of being the starting QB in a system that complemented his style. Stoops fired Eddie Gran and brought in a guy who wants a different style of QB. Why is Gatewood, or any player for that matter, being disloyal?

    Jalen Hurts lost his starting job in the National Championship game a few years ago when he got hurt and Tua came in and took over. Where was the loyalty?

    That's partly why I'm glad to see NIL implemented, even if it might be bad for UK. It is and always has been a business arrangement, it's just now the players are getting a piece of the pie.

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    • Spiritof96
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 13503

      #32
      We have a strange expectation that those with very little power should be hyper loyal to those who make the rules, have all the power, and routinely demonstrate that program/institutional loyalty is situationally disposable.
      Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
      ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
      Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
      No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
      RIP: Charlie Munger​

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      • Dwight Schrute
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 18716

        #33
        ^^
        Terry was also reportedly 'nudged' out the door somewhere else. And that's a guy who beat Tennessee, Florida, Louisville, and Penn State in his tenure as UKs QB.

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        • Sean
          Administrator
          • Oct 2014
          • 861

          #34
          Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

          I agree, but that has been the case as long as I've been a fan of college football. It also goes both ways, because programs pull offers all the time, especially if there's a coaching change. "Loyalty" is a myth and has been for a long, long time. Gatewood committed to UK under the impression he had a good chance of being the starting QB in a system that complemented his style. Stoops fired Eddie Gran and brought in a guy who wants a different style of QB. Why is Gatewood, or any player for that matter, being disloyal?

          Jalen Hurts lost his starting job in the National Championship game a few years ago when he got hurt and Tua came in and took over. Where was the loyalty?

          That's partly why I'm glad to see NIL implemented, even if it might be bad for UK. It is and always has been a business arrangement, it's just now the players are getting a piece of the pie.
          I don't disagree with you at all. I would like to see a little more loyalty from both sides of the fence maybe even more so from the institutions in fact.

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          • Jload
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2015
            • 2058

            #35
            Watching Gatewood play last year one thought occurred to me, This kid is too slow. Watched several runs of his where he simply wasn’t fast enough to make the corner. Kind of hard to star as a “ dual threat” QB if run run isn’t a threat, and his wasn’t.

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            • George
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 10355

              #36
              Originally posted by Jload
              Watching Gatewood play last year one thought occurred to me, This kid is too slow. Watched several runs of his where he simply wasn’t fast enough to make the corner. Kind of hard to star as a “ dual threat” QB if run run isn’t a threat, and his wasn’t.
              Stiff, plodding, and slow to make decisions. Not that accurate. Once I saw him play I was confused as to where the hype came from.

              There was a reason Auburn’s staff was willing to play against him in the immediate season following his transfer.

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              • Dwight Schrute
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 18716

                #37
                So it sounds like most of us agree that Joey Gatewood was correct to transfer out rather than be the 3rd stringer.



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                • Dwight Schrute
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 18716

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Sean

                  I don't disagree with you at all. I would like to see a little more loyalty from both sides of the fence maybe even more so from the institutions in fact.
                  I think we'd all like to think everyone's here for love of the blue and white and is committed to their personal loyalties. The salaries are too high for that though.

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                  • Los Gatos
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 1693

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

                    Stiff, plodding, and slow to make decisions. Not that accurate. Once I saw him play I was confused as to where the hype came from.

                    There was a reason Auburn’s staff was willing to play against him in the immediate season following his transfer.
                    Gatewood was not declared eligible until several days after the Auburn game. Sounds more like an agreement with Auburn to support the eligibility as long as it was after the game.

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                    • George
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 10355

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Los Gatos

                      Gatewood was not declared eligible until several days after the Auburn game. Sounds more like an agreement with Auburn to support the eligibility as long as it was after the game.
                      Yeah, you’re right. I forgot about the “gentlemen’s agreement.”

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