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REPORT: Mark Stoops names Will Levis the starting QB for Kentucky

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  • 40bill
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 8451

    #16
    Originally posted by SBCatMan
    I am not at all surprised that Allen stayed. He is, at most, a RS freshman with 4 years of eligibility remaining. (I am not sure how last year’s COVID year impacts him.). Levis is likely a 1-year QB. This will be Allen’s team next year and, as we like to point out, one snap away from being the starter this year.

    As for the Georgia fan’s comments, it seems like all fans have that kind of “insight.” I am not buying it. Joey has a decent arm, but, as we saw last year, he is pretty slow afoot. That lack of speed would not suit him as an LB or TE. He is a QB. And, entering the portal does not ALWAYS mean leaving. Nick entered and came back. Unlikely that Joey would do so, but, but maybe after sleeping on it he has a change of heart. NOT likely, but not out of the question, either.
    I almost expect Levis to stick for two years. It seemed he had three years eligibility. I'm not sure he will have the same success at UK as Joe Burrow did at LSU....would be sweet though.
    yes, it is entirely possible Gatewood returns....he isnt in an ideal spot right now for pickup by another team barring a catastrophic injury to that teams starter.

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    • Spiritof96
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 13503

      #17
      I wish Gatewood would stay...

      Andre Woodson was an uber-talented "bust"... UNTIL HE WASN'T.

      I'm really excited to see what Levis can do.
      Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
      ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
      Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
      No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
      RIP: Charlie Munger​

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      • 40bill
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 8451

        #18
        ^^^^^ agreed. The opportunity Gatewood (and I believe Allen as well) had last season was against Georgia who at that time was "the best defense in the SEC"....and in an offense that was designed for grind.

        Sometimes I forget that it is a mixture of talent AND system that equals success. I believe Joey's size and style of running ability was suited for Eddie Grans offense. While I agree it was time for a change, I remind myself that before Eddie Gran, there were no bowl bids.

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        • Lighthouse
          Gone But Never Forgotten
          • Oct 2014
          • 35962

          #19
          I'm so glad we have a starter, but I don't like players leaving because competition should be what it's about and if you lose, you work harder to get better and win.

          I also hope we realize our new QB is at a new place, learning a new system and has a new OC. He will make mistakes and we should support him through them.

          GO CATS!!!
          John 3:3

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          • Dwight Schrute
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 18716

            #20
            Originally posted by Lighthouse
            I'm so glad we have a starter, but I don't like players leaving because competition should be what it's about and if you lose, you work harder to get better and win.
            It isn't about competition, it's about the ability be able to play. Barring a change in style/offensive coordinators, Gatewood will never be the starting QB at Kentucky. Given that he's in competition for the backup role, it's not clear he'd be more than 3rd string here. Why would anyone who has aspirations of being a starting QB stay somewhere he'll never get off the bench?

            He's not the style of QB that Cohen likes to use, better to go somewhere he'll have that chance.

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            • Los Gatos
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 1690

              #21
              Originally posted by Lighthouse
              I'm so glad we have a starter, but I don't like players leaving because competition should be what it's about and if you lose, you work harder to get better and win.

              I also hope we realize our new QB is at a new place, learning a new system and has a new OC. He will make mistakes and we should support him through them.

              GO CATS!!!
              I don't have a problem with a player from another state, leaving to get better change of starting. Unless Lewis is a bust or injured, it would be very unusual to change QBs in mid season. I suspect Gatewood could work his a**off, get better and still not replace Lewis. It's more of question of Lewis failing that Gatewood getting better.

              On the other hand, I think Gatewood is not being realistic to continue to believe he can be a starting QB at a P5 school.
              Last edited by Los Gatos; 08-16-2021, 07:34 PM.

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              • Dwight Schrute
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 18716

                #22
                Originally posted by Los Gatos

                On the other hand, I think Gatewood is not being realistic to continue to believe he can be a starting QB at a P5 school.
                This is what I think. At least not at an SEC school.

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                • WIZARD
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 280

                  #23
                  I think the writing is on the wall, no more will we have a QB that is not a good passer. We will not be a QB run first team anymore.

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                  • Lighthouse
                    Gone But Never Forgotten
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 35962

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

                    It isn't about competition, it's about the ability be able to play. Barring a change in style/offensive coordinators, Gatewood will never be the starting QB at Kentucky. Given that he's in competition for the backup role, it's not clear he'd be more than 3rd string here. Why would anyone who has aspirations of being a starting QB stay somewhere he'll never get off the bench?

                    He's not the style of QB that Cohen likes to use, better to go somewhere he'll have that chance.
                    I realize times have changed, but back when I was playing it was about competition and if you lost you supported the winner and was ready if called on.
                    John 3:3

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                    • Dwight Schrute
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 18716

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Lighthouse

                      I realize times have changed, but back when I was playing it was about competition and if you lost you supported the winner and was ready if called on.
                      And that’s silly because there were a lot of bad teams that needed players where someone coulda gone to better themselves and not sit on a bench.

                      It's also likely that given the pass first emphasis of the offense, Gatewood has a good chance of being no more than 3rd string, meaning unless Levis and Allen are both unavailable, he'll never play.
                      Last edited by Dwight Schrute; 08-17-2021, 09:04 AM.

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                      • Lighthouse
                        Gone But Never Forgotten
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 35962

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

                        And that’s silly because there were a lot of bad teams that needed players where someone coulda gone to better themselves and not sit on a bench.

                        It's also likely that given the pass first emphasis of the offense, Gatewood has a good chance of being no more than 3rd string, meaning unless Levis and Allen are both unavailable, he'll never play.
                        It wasn't silly, it was loyalty and dedication which have both disappeared in today's world. You would have to be much older to understand. But I understand where you're coming from.
                        John 3:3

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                        • Dwight Schrute
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 18716

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Lighthouse

                          It wasn't silly, it was loyalty and dedication which have both disappeared in today's world. You would have to be much older to understand. But I understand where you're coming from.
                          It is silly to expect loyalty and dedication from student athletes when they get none from their institutions. Coaches routinely 'encourage' kids to transfer, can revoke scholarships, when coaches are allowed to leave with zero repercussions, etc.

                          College football is cutthroat, loyalty and dedication shouldn't be a one way street.

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                          • Lighthouse
                            Gone But Never Forgotten
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 35962

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

                            It is silly to expect loyalty and dedication from student athletes when they get none from their institutions. Coaches routinely 'encourage' kids to transfer, can revoke scholarships, when coaches are allowed to leave with zero repercussions, etc.

                            College football is cutthroat, loyalty and dedication shouldn't be a one way street.
                            See, I said you are not old enough to remember when Loyalty and Dedication were not Silly! And that's a shame, because it was a fact awhile ago. College sports, and others, have not always been the awful way they are today. And some folks are not silly just because they don't see things through your eyes.
                            John 3:3

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                            • Dwight Schrute
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 18716

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Lighthouse

                              See, I said you are not old enough to remember when Loyalty and Dedication were not Silly! And that's a shame, because it was a fact awhile ago. College sports, and others, have not always been the awful way they are today. And some folks are not silly just because they don't see things through your eyes.
                              I didn’t say you were silly. I said having some fantasy of loyalty to UK when that wasn’t a two way street is silly.

                              Re: college sports being awful today, we are all to blame for that.
                              Last edited by Dwight Schrute; 08-18-2021, 09:07 PM.

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                              • Sean
                                Administrator
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 861

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Lighthouse

                                See, I said you are not old enough to remember when Loyalty and Dedication were not Silly! And that's a shame, because it was a fact awhile ago. College sports, and others, have not always been the awful way they are today. And some folks are not silly just because they don't see things through your eyes.
                                Same reason I don't pay attention to football commitments anymore. Dedication, loyalty, and standing by your word went out of vogue long ago.

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