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  • Spiritof96
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 13503

    #121
    Originally posted by surveyor

    I've had back injuries and successful surgery. My mobility isn't what it once was (partly because I'm a few years shy of 60 now), but I think I would prefer potential physical impairment versus CTEs. It's concerning the number of football players who've had repeated concussions and have later committed suicide.
    I don't think it it is known what the incidence rate of CTE is in Football (an consequently the actual risk) as compared to anything else is currently known. The only brains that have been studied are symptomatic outliers not samples of the asymptomatic majority. That gives rise to reasonable cause for concern, but it isn't a picture of the average or the most common football career brain.

    We also don't have anything like a baseline for the rate of incidence of the population at large. Kids on my intramural team in college got concussions. I had at least one (probably) as a kid, possibly two and then another two or possibly three in college from snowboarding, rockfall.
    Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
    ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
    Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
    No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
    RIP: Charlie Munger​

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    • 40bill
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2014
      • 8451

      #122
      Biggest issue is that some.of these calls.are just football plays. There is definitely a difference in what we used to call 'spearing' which is intentional aim to use the helmet as a weapon.
      like others, I am concerned if we have kids.begin to look up every time they hit there is going to be an increase of serious neck injury.

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      • johnkyblue
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 4418

        #123
        I haven't seen the plays on the television, just live... I would love that, anybody got links?

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        • johnkyblue
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 4418

          #124

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          • Lighthouse
            Gone But Never Forgotten
            • Oct 2014
            • 35962

            #125
            Originally posted by Spiritof96

            Are you sure? UK's rugby club has seems to have two or three kids concussed every game.

            Perhaps there is a difference in pro rugby or European rugby.

            I will grant you that the collisions in Rugby seem to be lower velocity than college or pro football. I do have a buddy that broke all the bones in his face via a rugby collision involving his face and the crown of someone's skull.
            I would imagine the helmet and pads lead to more violent hits, but the tackling technique would probably be better. I too know very little about Rugby.

            John 3:3

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            • Spiritof96
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 13503

              #126
              Originally posted by johnkyblue
              Thanks, John.

              I like the first comment, "Targeting happens every play. It's called form tackling".
              Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
              ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
              Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
              No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
              RIP: Charlie Munger​

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              • Chaz
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2014
                • 235

                #127
                Just a penny's worth of thought. What is the major factor in the injuries? To me it is the rigid
                hard plastic (?) outer shell of the helmet. Even with all of advances with the inner padding etc.
                it is still the hard shell of the helmet that does the damage IMHO.
                Why not have thick nerf like covering with a tough flexible fabric (kevlar) as the outer most covering.
                To me, that would soften the blow and absorb alot of the impact.

                Convince me that this is not feasible.
                Eight is great--Time for Nine

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                • Lighthouse
                  Gone But Never Forgotten
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 35962

                  #128
                  Originally posted by Chaz
                  Just a penny's worth of thought. What is the major factor in the injuries? To me it is the rigid
                  hard plastic (?) outer shell of the helmet. Even with all of advances with the inner padding etc.
                  it is still the hard shell of the helmet that does the damage IMHO.
                  Why not have thick nerf like covering with a tough flexible fabric (kevlar) as the outer most covering.
                  To me, that would soften the blow and absorb alot of the impact.

                  Convince me that this is not feasible.
                  It would sure change the way most players tackle.
                  John 3:3

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                  • Spiritof96
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 13503

                    #129
                    Originally posted by Chaz
                    Just a penny's worth of thought. What is the major factor in the injuries? To me it is the rigid
                    hard plastic (?) outer shell of the helmet. Even with all of advances with the inner padding etc.
                    it is still the hard shell of the helmet that does the damage IMHO.
                    Why not have thick nerf like covering with a tough flexible fabric (kevlar) as the outer most covering.
                    To me, that would soften the blow and absorb alot of the impact.

                    Convince me that this is not feasible.
                    It's the sudden change in speed as much as anything else. Your brain is floating inside your skull. If I suddenly change the direction of your skull, your brain is going to slosh around inside your skull and possibly bruise. (concussion)

                    The speed and forces are so great in football that any helmet technology is nibbling at the margins.
                    Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                    ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                    Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                    No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                    RIP: Charlie Munger​

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