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  • 40bill
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 8451

    #76
    Missed a 35 yard field goal. Had hit longer ones.
    losses are disappointing.... but this is a one point loss (yeah, I know....but seriously...).

    Kids gotta get their heads together.
    I'm impressed with Smith, Wagner, Smoke....hey, those weren't SUPPOSED to be big names.

    Get it straight boys....tough road coming right away.

    I kinda like this team, though to be honest.

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    • KCKUKFan
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2014
      • 14228

      #77
      The more things change in Kentucky football, the more they'll always stay the same. I'm pretty much convinced of that.

      We can still have a very solid season, but this one will hurt. This is the type of loss that will cast a shadow over the rest of the season, especially if things turn sour.

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      • 40bill
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 8451

        #78
        Originally posted by Dwight Schrute
        I know you old timers have been through this before but watching UK football repeatedly vomit up a game doesn’t stop being a gut punch.
        Lol.....no, it never has. Makes the wins even better.

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        • KCKUKFan
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 14228

          #79
          Targeting, as it is called now, neuters defenses.

          It's almost impossible to control if you're a secondary back moving at full speed.

          The definition of the rule sucks, and should be adjusted.

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          • Jload
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2015
            • 2058

            #80
            Originally posted by Lighthouse
            Well I disagree with some and your reasons we lost tonight. It wasn't targeting calls, it wasn't bad play calling. Our defense was doing a great job before the Florida QB got hurt. They took their foot off the attack mode they were in and thought their backup couldn't get it done.

            I'm proud of these kids, and especially proud of Sawyer Smith.


            And whether you like it or not, all three targeting calls tonight were correct.

            I hate it that our FG kicker missed, but I bet he grew up a lot tonight and will win some games for us.
            The targeting calls were correct ,it is the rule, not the officials interpretation of it that sucks. It perverts the essence of what football is A violent collision sport that happens in micro secondsPeople get hit angles change instantly people launch at one angle and it changes. That is football and it rarely can be controlled As this rule heads to its logical conclusion, all arm tackles, I’m sure some of you will still call it football but that’s not what it will beThose of us who played the game will know better

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            • Dwight Schrute
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 18716

              #81
              Originally posted by KCKUKFan
              Targeting, as it is called now, neuters defenses.

              It's almost impossible to control if you're a secondary back moving at full speed.

              The definition of the rule sucks, and should be adjusted.
              Targeting is like pornography, it’s difficult to define but you know it when you see it.

              The bigger problem is that referees have have zero discretion. They see it and their hands are tied and the game is worse for it.

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              • Lighthouse
                Gone But Never Forgotten
                • Oct 2014
                • 35962

                #82
                Originally posted by Sean

                Can you explain why you like the rule? Also I do believe hitting a guy with your head up and back so as not to make helmet contact will lead to some kid getting their neck broken. Mark my words.
                I never said I liked the rule, but it being interpreted as written and will continue to be at least through this season. The Officials were trained and instructed to call it like they are and they are doing just that. I do believe something should be done about the rule.

                Also, it's up to the Coaches to coach their kids about how to hit differently. If they don't, kids will continue to be ejected.
                John 3:3

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                • Sean
                  Administrator
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 861

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Lighthouse

                  I never said I liked the rule, but it being interpreted as written and will continue to be at least through this season. The Officials were trained and instructed to call it like they are and they are doing just that. I do believe something should be done about the rule.

                  Also, it's up to the Coaches to coach their kids about how to hit differently. If they don't, kids will continue to be ejected.
                  I don't believe anyone is arguing against the officials but there is going to be a lot of teeth gnashing about the way this rule is written.

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                  • Jload
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2015
                    • 2058

                    #84
                    Even if you manage to teach kids to make all “shoulder tackles” you will still have 2 or 3 targeting calls every game. Why? Because the speed of the game many many times when trying to make a tackle the collision points has moved from the time you launched at it. It is the nature of football and you can’t Control it unless you give rm flags to play with.

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                    • Lighthouse
                      Gone But Never Forgotten
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 35962

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Dwight Schrute

                      Forget what the rule said. Do you think any of those hits deserved ejection and a 2 half suspension? Forget whether those were the correct calls, do you think those were good calls? Do you actually think that’s a good rule? That an official should be put into a position to impact a game like that?

                      The rule as defined and implemented is the problem. That’s what we’re complaining about. Nobody’s disputing whether those refs made the right call. We’re complaining about the rule itself.
                      You're right about the rule defined and implemented, but it's not going to change until at least next season, so we have to get used to it. Maybe we should be upset with the coaches because if they're not coaching kids to hit with their head up, that could be the problem.

                      I think there will be some adjustment to the rule next year, but now it is what it is.
                      John 3:3

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                      • Lighthouse
                        Gone But Never Forgotten
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 35962

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Sean

                        I don't believe anyone is arguing against the officials but there is going to be a lot of teeth gnashing about the way this rule is written.
                        There already is, and I think the rules committee is listening. At least I hope so.
                        John 3:3

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                        • Dwight Schrute
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 18716

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Lighthouse

                          You're right about the rule defined and implemented, but it's not going to change until at least next season, so we have to get used to it. Maybe we should be upset with the coaches because if they're not coaching kids to hit with their head up, that could be the problem.

                          I think there will be some adjustment to the rule next year, but now it is what it is.
                          There is no way to adjust to it. It’s one thing to say you should tackle with your head up, it’s another to be in a game and rushing over to to help out on a tackle and get nailed for it because things happened different than you thought.

                          Targeting rules ought to be scrapped until they figure out how to implement it properly.

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                          • Sean
                            Administrator
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 861

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Lighthouse

                            You're right about the rule defined and implemented, but it's not going to change until at least next season, so we have to get used to it. Maybe we should be upset with the coaches because if they're not coaching kids to hit with their head up, that could be the problem.

                            I think there will be some adjustment to the rule next year, but now it is what it is.
                            Hitting with your head up, full speed, will lead to broken necks and worse.

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                            • Spiritof96
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 13503

                              #89
                              Don’t even defend this terrible freaking rule. It is the ABSOLUTE WORST!

                              AND SO IS EVERY OFFICIAL WHO CALLS ANY BUT THE MOST EGREGIOUS. They (the rules committee and the officials are ruining the game.

                              Correction, have ruined.
                              Last edited by Lighthouse; 09-15-2019, 08:58 AM.
                              Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                              ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                              Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                              No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                              RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                              • Dwight Schrute
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 18716

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Spiritof96
                                Don’t even defend this terrible freaking rule. It is the ABSOLUTE f—-ing WORST!

                                AND SO IS EVERY OFFICIAL WHO CALLS ANY BUT THE MOST EGREGIOUS. They (the rules committee and the officials are ruining the game.

                                Correction, have ruined.
                                My dude

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