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  • surveyor
    Administrator
    • Oct 2014
    • 14474

    #61
    Originally posted by Westtncat

    They way I see it is, just because its a UK uniform doesnt mean its the same thing. Would you watch it if a bunch of 40 year old, over the hill guys put on UK uniforms and represented the school? Its not like our punter is wanting to sit out. IF Our SEC defensive player of the year and the running back that our entire offense revolves around do not play then what will I be watching? I want to see the team I watched all year in the bowl game.
    That's not even remotely the same comparison and totally misses Will's point. It's not realistic to compare 40 year old over the hill guys with guys who are going to contribute on next year's roster. That makes it still an interesting game to watch - to see how these guys are going to do and gauge where they'll be in progress next year. I'll still watch the preseason games of my favorite NFL team because I want to see how the draftees other players are going to fare for the season.
    Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.

    Clint Eastwood

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    • 40bill
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2014
      • 8451

      #62
      I watched Kentucky play plenty when the team sucked.
      if a couple kids sit out, i bet i still watch em.

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      • Westtncat
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 2031

        #63
        Originally posted by surveyor

        That's not even remotely the same comparison and totally misses Will's point. It's not realistic to compare 40 year old over the hill guys with guys who are going to contribute on next year's roster. That makes it still an interesting game to watch - to see how these guys are going to do and gauge where they'll be in progress next year. I'll still watch the preseason games of my favorite NFL team because I want to see how the draftees other players are going to fare for the season.
        You are right, its not remotely the same but either way Snell was basically the offense this year. Its not like hes a random special teams guy. So I really dont care to see an entirely different offensive team trying to make up things because at the last minute things have changed due to this decision. Watching a preseason game that doesn't mean squat has no comparison to a bowl game either. You already know your team is experimenting and it doesnt even go on the record. Complete throw away games that are actually meant to do that with rookies and new editions. JMO. Then again, I dont watch the NFL at all anymore but thats a different story.

        To each his own, but saying that I am not watching just because a couple of players are sitting out misses my point too. Snell and Allen arent just a couple of guys. They are THE guys. Lets say Gunner Hoak and Asim Rose sit out. I promise I will watch.

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        • Spiritof96
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 13503

          #64
          Originally posted by Westtncat

          You are right, its not remotely the same but either way Snell was basically the offense this year. Its not like hes a random special teams guy. So I really dont care to see an entirely different offensive team trying to make up things because at the last minute things have changed due to this decision. Watching a preseason game that doesn't mean squat has no comparison to a bowl game either. You already know your team is experimenting and it doesnt even go on the record. Complete throw away games that are actually meant to do that with rookies and new editions. JMO. Then again, I dont watch the NFL at all anymore but thats a different story.

          To each his own, but saying that I am not watching just because a couple of players are sitting out misses my point too. Snell and Allen arent just a couple of guys. They are THE guys. Lets say Gunner Hoak and Asim Rose sit out. I promise I will watch.
          Is it possible you don't really like football very much?
          Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
          ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
          Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
          No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
          RIP: Charlie Munger​

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          • Joneslab
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 39604

            #65
            I dislike football. But I love UK football. I think I've watched UK football when they had one or two wins. I can't not watch. I'm dang sure going to watch them play in one of the biggest bowls in the history of the program.

            The other games not so much. I couldn't tell you who's playing in the playoff outside of Alabama.

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            • TennCat
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2015
              • 26

              #66
              I'll say, there have been some interesting comments on this issue. It just seems the attitude and comments are different when many of you talk about the one 1 and done players on the basketball thread.

              I personally think there's no good excuse for not playing in a bowl game, but that's just my 2 cents worth.

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              • Joneslab
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 39604

                #67
                Originally posted by TennCat
                I'll say, there have been some interesting comments on this issue. It just seems the attitude and comments are different when many of you talk about the one 1 and done players on the basketball thread.

                I personally think there's no good excuse for not playing in a bowl game, but that's just my 2 cents worth.
                Difference there is that the players are leaving after the season.

                After the season, all bets are off. Have no problem with guys chasing their dreams after all the games have been played. We're talking about a game that's part of the season. A huge game at that.

                I ain't gonna be mad at them if they don't play, I'm just saying were it my son, he's playing.

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                • 40bill
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 8451

                  #68
                  Originally posted by TennCat
                  I'll say, there have been some interesting comments on this issue. It just seems the attitude and comments are different when many of you talk about the one 1 and done players on the basketball thread.

                  I personally think there's no good excuse for not playing in a bowl game, but that's just my 2 cents worth.
                  I think the difference is we still really see it as the season, while calling it an expensive exhibition game. I think there was much the same buzz last year with Vanderbilt on the basketball team.....even though it's kinda obviously now he was actually fragile.

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                  • Westtncat
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 2031

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Spiritof96

                    Is it possible you don't really like football very much?
                    In a general sense yes its possible. Its a large universe there are many possibilities. But if you just want a direct answer, I love football. I am posting in a football thread. People generally gather in places of interest. I am even on other football forums. I have been in the USC football forum and am still a member of the Texas Aggies football forum. But, we can rule out all possibilities.

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                    • Westtncat
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 2031

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Will Lavender

                      Difference there is that the players are leaving after the season.

                      After the season, all bets are off. Have no problem with guys chasing their dreams after all the games have been played. We're talking about a game that's part of the season. A huge game at that.

                      I ain't gonna be mad at them if they don't play, I'm just saying were it my son, he's playing.
                      I agree with this. What I dont get is the weight of this game vs. other games when you know you have 20 or 30 million at stake? It is what it is but the argument is weak. The reason we have one and dones is because of the NBA age limit. You wouldnt see these kids at all if not for that.

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                      • Matt Dillon
                        Administrator
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 49610

                        #71
                        Originally posted by 40bill

                        I think the difference is we still really see it as the season, while calling it an expensive exhibition game.
                        It is part of the season, no question about it. If Benny sets a new UK rushing record, due in part to yards gained in the bowl game, there won't be an asterisk by his name.

                        Philippians 4:11-4:13

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                        • Westtncat
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 2031

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Matt Dillon

                          It is part of the season, no question about it. If Benny sets a new UK rushing record, due in part to yards gained in the bowl game, there won't be an asterisk by his name.
                          Exactly!

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                          • Spiritof96
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 13503

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Westtncat

                            In a general sense yes its possible. Its a large universe there are many possibilities. But if you just want a direct answer, I love football. I am posting in a football thread. People generally gather in places of interest. I am even on other football forums. I have been in the USC football forum and am still a member of the Texas Aggies football forum. But, we can rule out all possibilities.
                            Then your statement about not watching if certain players sit out doesn’t make much sense. I mean, to each his own but if one is a UK Football fan I don’t see how you “don’t watch” this game.
                            Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                            ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                            Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                            No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                            RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                            • Westtncat
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 2031

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Spiritof96

                              Then your statement about not watching if certain players sit out doesn’t make much sense. I mean, to each his own but if one is a UK Football fan I don’t see how you “don’t watch” this game.
                              Not much more I can say. As much sense as it doesn't make to you, its just how I feel. If Snell weren't such a huge part of our offense I might feel different. I would rather watch two teams at full strength that I have followed this year and see them battle it out. To be honest I cant honestly say I will take some sort of stand and refuse to watch the game. It will be more like , If I miss it no biggie. My interest level will plummet. So its not some sort of protest or anything like that, just doesn't hold my interest.

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                              • catfaninin
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 2016

                                #75
                                I personally have no strong feelings one way or the other. Sure I would like to see everyone play but I totally get not playing as well.

                                I saw earlier that Allen, West, Edwards and Johnson had accepted to play in the Senior Bowl. My question would be what would anyone's thoughts be if players skipped their teams bowl game then played in that game? Can just as easily blow out a knee in an all star game as in a normal game

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