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  • Joneslab
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 39604

    #16
    It's probably hard for many fans to appreciate how good this team is because of the grinding, smashmouth, brutal way we play. It looks like a struggle but I think what's happening is that Stoops is trying to set the game up to just make enough fourth quarter plays to win.

    Had a friend--who isn't really a UK football fan--say to me just this morning that Kentucky was "mediocre." I couldn't disagree more.

    The question is whether this can be sustained all the way through, or whether our razor-thin margin for error is going to bite us. I'm not sure but Missouri is a great test. They're sort of like our polar opposite. But if we can beat them I really think we're getting at least 10.

    We're so close to history.

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    • KevinHall
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 6857

      #17
      I like the way this team plays. The smash mouth football is the way football is meant to be played. But you have to have some balance. Eighteen yards passing will get you beat most nights. UK was lucky Vandy was just as bad them at trying to get a good mix. If this doesn't change it will catch up to them in a big way. It may happen this weekend, we will see. Then Wilson could come out and the lights come on for him and he becomes and effective passer. You never know. But he has the problem of no receivers other than Bowden and Conrad (who they won't target much).
      UK should lose no more than two more games. 9-3 is a glorious season for UK. That would be the best since 1977 for me and for most people now the best in their lifetime. Anything less will be a disappointment. The game this week is a toss up. UK with a great defense going against a very good offense. Mizzou with a very average defense going against an unstable offense of UK. If UK can somehow manage about 24 to 27 points this week they have a good shot to win and a 10 win season. But if the same offense comes out that has been the last two games then 14 points won't be enough to win this week.

      You know what these boards are for criticism of our teams. That's what fans do. A place to vent even if may not be warranted at all times. If someone doesn't like that then they should not come here and be offended. If we weren't here being fans then it would apathy and that is the worst thing you can have in fans for your sports team.
      Kentucky fan since 1971.

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      • Joneslab
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 39604

        #18
        Originally posted by KevinHall
        You know what these boards are for criticism of our teams. That's what fans do. A place to vent even if may not be warranted at all times. If someone doesn't like that then they should not come here and be offended. If we weren't here being fans then it would apathy and that is the worst thing you can have in fans for your sports team.
        Yep. Message boards are bad places for cheering. Good for working off frustration.

        Happens in all sports. I've seen basketball-only fans criticize teams after 20-point beatdowns. That's why some folks, maybe most folks, even log on in the first place.

        I know a few people who are negative as hell on the boards but in real life are rabid, uncontrollable fans. I think it's just when they come here they want to throw out worst-case scenario type stuff. It probably makes them look more miserable than they really are.

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        • KevinHall
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 6857

          #19
          Originally posted by Will Lavender

          Yep. Message boards are bad places for cheering. Good for working off frustration.

          Happens in all sports. I've seen basketball-only fans criticize teams after 20-point beatdowns. That's why some folks, maybe most folks, even log on in the first place.

          I know a few people who are negative as hell on the boards but in real life are rabid, uncontrollable fans. I think it's just when they come here they want to throw out worst-case scenario type stuff. It probably makes them look more miserable than they really are.
          I think the extremes are the people who are aggravating to me on these boards. I hate reading the Hip Hip Hoorray! Sis Boom Bah people who think everything is good even though the team is crap. Or overlook some severe deficiencys in a team when they are quite obvious. Also hate the ones that kill their team when the win by 40 point s but don't outscore their opponent in the 2nd half of a game. But that's fans and that what makes sports what they are.
          Kentucky fan since 1971.

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          • Dwight Schrute
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 18716

            #20
            I think one can enjoy this team for what it is - the best here in a long time - while still acknowledging its shortcomings. In the end, we all want to see this team be the one that shatters the glass ceiling this program has lived under for most of its existence.

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            • TrueblueCATfan
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 16272

              #21
              I am loving this......My team is 6-1 and it is a fun season......going to enjoy it to the end

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              • Dwight Schrute
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 18716

                #22
                Originally posted by TrueblueCATfan
                I am loving this......My team is 6-1 and it is a fun season......going to enjoy it to the end
                This is absolutely true. For the first time in a while I am making plans on my Saturday evenings to sit down and watch UK football games, which is not something I've done in a while.

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                • JFCats22
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 4210

                  #23
                  This team has been great so far. The past two seasons have probably had the most potential in 40+ years. Last year turned into a big disappointment for me. I don't think this year will but UK has to beat Mizzou. That (IMO) is the only way we can set ourselves up for something really special.

                  I will readily admit that after 35+ years of watching UK football I am still waiting for us to revert back and actually be "UK football". Probably a bad way to look at it and something I hope does not happen; it's just been year after year of witnessing it makes it kinda hard to believe all of this is real.

                  But, 6-1 (and arguably should be 7-0) is not something I expected to see a UK football team do. I am thrilled with them so far.

                  My biggest concern is that we are incredibly weak at two of the most important positions on the field, QB and kicker. And, at some point you have to think it's going to come down to one of those positions winning or losing the game for UK.

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                  • surveyor
                    Administrator
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 14474

                    #24
                    Can't recall the outlet, but there was an article I read Sunday morning questioning whether Kentucky can continue to do well absent a passing game. My first thought was, "They have done well so far absent a passing game". That seemed to be the focus of the article rather than the running game and the highly rated defense.

                    I'm tickled to death with the success - passing game or not.
                    Extremism is so easy. You've got your position, and that's it. It doesn't take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left.

                    Clint Eastwood

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                    • Blue Heaven
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 6283

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Matt Dillon
                      A big thumbs up to posts 4, 5, 6 & 11.
                      Yep. Westtncat summed up my feelings perfectly. I couldn't have said it any better.
                      Isaiah 5:20

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                      • JFCats22
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 4210

                        #26
                        Originally posted by surveyor
                        Can't recall the outlet, but there was an article I read Sunday morning questioning whether Kentucky can continue to do well absent a passing game. My first thought was, "They have done well so far absent a passing game". That seemed to be the focus of the article rather than the running game and the highly rated defense.

                        I'm tickled to death with the success - passing game or not.
                        I think it's a fair and legitimate question. UK has scored 48 points total the past 3 games and that includes a loss and a rough win against a bad Vandy team (missing their best player).

                        UK had 300 yards rushing and still only managed 14 points. They are going to have to figure out a way to pass, even a little bit, to start getting some points on the board.

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                        • Blue Heaven
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 6283

                          #27
                          Originally posted by JFCats22

                          My biggest concern is that we are incredibly weak at two of the most important positions on the field, QB and kicker. And, at some point you have to think it's going to come down to one of those positions winning or losing the game for UK.
                          It already has. Twice. Can't remember the game but we weny for it on 4th and long because we couldn't kick a 45 yarder. We then missed the 42 yarder at A&M. I have never heard of redshirting a kicker. If Poore was all along better than Butler then he should've been in there from day 1. And his high school rankings suggest he should've been. Not griping but I am just saying.
                          Isaiah 5:20

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                          • Lighthouse
                            Gone But Never Forgotten
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 35962

                            #28
                            Personally, I will always be very positive about any Kentucky Sport win or lose, and that's my choice. I guess because of my background in playing, coaching and officiating, I always try to analyze the games from all angles, but will realistically point out mistakes by officials, what I perceive to be coaching mistakes and weaknesses in a players performance. All the while, looking at every angle of why a called play doesn't work, or why the Coaches game plan differs from my ideas.

                            The most frustrating thing for me here on this board is not what folks post, but how we never hear from them until something goes wrong. Then, all we see is how pitiful our Coaches and Players are, with an occasional mini positive post. If that's all you got, you're most welcome to post it here and we'll read it and try not to criticize you for it.
                            John 3:3

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                            • Spiritof96
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 13503

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Lighthouse
                              Personally, I will always be very positive about any Kentucky Sport win or lose, and that's my choice. I guess because of my background in playing, coaching and officiating, I always try to analyze the games from all angles, but will realistically point out mistakes by officials, what I perceive to be coaching mistakes and weaknesses in a players performance. All the while, looking at every angle of why a called play doesn't work, or why the Coaches game plan differs from my ideas.

                              The most frustrating thing for me here on this board is not what folks post, but how we never hear from them until something goes wrong. Then, all we see is how pitiful our Coaches and Players are, with an occasional mini positive post. If that's all you got, you're most welcome to post it here and we'll read it and try not to criticize you for it.
                              Would you care to redirect some of the negativity by commenting on the state of football officiating in the SEC? It seems that two of our biggest plays of the night were taken away by highly questionable flags... Combine that with Josh Allen being held on every play... Is that just the homer perspective?
                              Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                              ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                              Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                              No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                              RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                              • KCKUKFan
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 14228

                                #30
                                As a guy that has been notoriously hard on this football program, I will NEVER complain about being 6-1. Our current position is rarified air.

                                With that said, I can still be frustrated with what appears to be a regressing offense.

                                There will be a game coming up where we'll have to be able to score more than 14 points, and it might be Saturday. The game at Missouri this weekend is going to tell me a lot about what I need to know going forward.

                                This can be a destiny season, or it can be yet another "what if" situation, which is where even our better teams have always seemed to end up.

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