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  • Joneslab
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 39604

    #256
    Stephen Johnson hasn't thrown a good ball in weeks. That has nothing to do with the wind. I think he may have been playing hurt.

    When you get beat like we did the wind isn't a factor at all. If it were close then you can maybe get into the weather and that kind of stuff, but we were never in that game. Snell kept it from being a total rout, but it was clear from the opening drive that we were doomed.

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    • KevinHall
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 6857

      #257
      Originally posted by johnkyblue
      I said MAJOR factor.

      fac·tor
      ˈfaktər/
      noun
      1. 1.
        a circumstance, fact, or influence that contributes to a result or outcome.
        "his legal problems were not a factor in his decision"
        synonyms: element, part, component, ingredient, strand, constituent, point, detail, item, feature, facet, aspect, characteristic, consideration, influence, circumstance
        "this had been a key factor in his decision to withdraw"
      I stand by it, proudly.
      Major means you think it was the KEY factor in their loss. This is more lame than your blaming of officials for most of their other losses.
      Kentucky fan since 1971.

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      • johnkyblue
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 4418

        #258
        Don't tell me what I mean to say, listen and comprehend what I mean to say.

        I try and explain something and people insist I mean something else? How RUDE!

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        • Lighthouse
          Gone But Never Forgotten
          • Oct 2014
          • 35962

          #259
          This is going nowhere but down. Topic closed.
          John 3:3

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          • Lighthouse
            Gone But Never Forgotten
            • Oct 2014
            • 35962

            #260
            I apologize for closing this topic. I got tired of reading all the stuff about the wind. Carry on.
            John 3:3

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            • Old School
              Administrator
              • Oct 2014
              • 2218

              #261
              Originally posted by teamchemistry15

              I really appreciated his marriage advice considering I just tied the knot last weekend. If you haven't seen it do yourself a favor and find it on YouTube.


              Classic Leach. Entertaining, has it all figured out, delivers it in his inimitable way.

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              • Old School
                Administrator
                • Oct 2014
                • 2218

                #262
                Originally posted by KevinHall
                Also on Leach, he would n;t be doing any better at UK. Leach's teams have never had good defenses that I can remember. That sounds familiar doesn't it? Also coaching in the Big 12 and Pac 12 still isn't the SEC. Leach would get UK to 7 wins but I doubt any better than that. He is a strange guy too that just wouldn't fit well at UK. He would have to win big to over come that and as I said he wouldn't at UK.
                Washington State was 2-11, 1-11, 2-10 and 4-8 in the four years before Leach arrived. They were 9-4 and 8-5 in the past two years, and 9-3 this year.

                I don't think your take on his defenses is accurate.

                Mike Leach's Washington State team is ranked #15 in the nation in total defense this year. And they're very solid in a lot of other defensive categories, too.

                #48 in the nation in scoring defense

                #40 in the nation in rushing defense

                #15 in the nation in total defense

                #13 in the nation in sacks

                #11 in the nation in first downs defense

                #7 in the nation in tackles for loss

                #5 in the nation in passing efficiency defense

                #1 in the nation in 3rd down conversion defense

                Discover the current NCAA FBS Football leaders in every stats category, as well as historic leaders.


                It may be that he has overcome the old knock on the Air Raid school of coaches, the notion that they can't have a powerful offense and a good defense as well.

                I'm not sure why you would think Mike Leach, of all coaches, wouldn't succeed at Kentucky. He's putting up 9 win seasons with a roster made up of 2 and 3 star kids that's performing well on both sides of the ball, at an obscure school in the middle of nowhere that might have been the worst Power 5 program in the country when Leach arrived. He had a more consistent string of success in the Big XII, at Texas Tech of all places, than any other coach or program in that time. He had 2 star QBs leading the country in passing stats.

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                • Matt Dillon
                  Administrator
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 49622

                  #263
                  All I can say is the Leach detractors had better hope he doesn't ever end up in the SEC. If he does, you'll see whether or not he can win in the conference.
                  Philippians 4:11-4:13

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                  • fastkat
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 629

                    #264
                    Originally posted by Old School

                    Washington State was 2-11, 1-11, 2-10 and 4-8 in the four years before Leach arrived. They were 9-4 and 8-5 in the past two years, and 9-3 this year.

                    I don't think your take on his defenses is accurate.

                    Mike Leach's Washington State team is ranked #15 in the nation in total defense this year. And they're very solid in a lot of other defensive categories, too.

                    #48 in the nation in scoring defense

                    #40 in the nation in rushing defense

                    #15 in the nation in total defense

                    #13 in the nation in sacks

                    #11 in the nation in first downs defense

                    #7 in the nation in tackles for loss

                    #5 in the nation in passing efficiency defense

                    #1 in the nation in 3rd down conversion defense

                    Discover the current NCAA FBS Football leaders in every stats category, as well as historic leaders.


                    It may be that he has overcome the old knock on the Air Raid school of coaches, the notion that they can't have a powerful offense and a good defense as well.

                    I'm not sure why you would think Mike Leach, of all coaches, wouldn't succeed at Kentucky. He's putting up 9 win seasons with a roster made up of 2 and 3 star kids that's performing well on both sides of the ball, at an obscure school in the middle of nowhere that might have been the worst Power 5 program in the country when Leach arrived. He had a more consistent string of success in the Big XII, at Texas Tech of all places, than any other coach or program in that time. He had 2 star QBs leading the country in passing stats.
                    Wash St sure got spanked against a good PAC 10 team this week.

                    It's easy to rack up stats against not so good teams, much like our rushing defense. We were a top team early and when we got into the meat of the SEC schedule we dropped like a lead balloon
                    Last edited by fastkat; 11-28-2017, 06:08 AM.

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                    • KevinHall
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 6857

                      #265
                      Originally posted by Old School

                      Washington State was 2-11, 1-11, 2-10 and 4-8 in the four years before Leach arrived. They were 9-4 and 8-5 in the past two years, and 9-3 this year.

                      I don't think your take on his defenses is accurate.

                      Mike Leach's Washington State team is ranked #15 in the nation in total defense this year. And they're very solid in a lot of other defensive categories, too.

                      #48 in the nation in scoring defense

                      #40 in the nation in rushing defense

                      #15 in the nation in total defense

                      #13 in the nation in sacks

                      #11 in the nation in first downs defense

                      #7 in the nation in tackles for loss

                      #5 in the nation in passing efficiency defense

                      #1 in the nation in 3rd down conversion defense

                      Discover the current NCAA FBS Football leaders in every stats category, as well as historic leaders.


                      It may be that he has overcome the old knock on the Air Raid school of coaches, the notion that they can't have a powerful offense and a good defense as well.

                      I'm not sure why you would think Mike Leach, of all coaches, wouldn't succeed at Kentucky. He's putting up 9 win seasons with a roster made up of 2 and 3 star kids that's performing well on both sides of the ball, at an obscure school in the middle of nowhere that might have been the worst Power 5 program in the country when Leach arrived. He had a more consistent string of success in the Big XII, at Texas Tech of all places, than any other coach or program in that time. He had 2 star QBs leading the country in passing stats.
                      Put this way Leach will never coach at UK anyway. So the argument is mute. This where stats don't tell the whole story. His defenses aren't that good. Not much if any better than what Stoops has put up. If Leach were here I highly doubt he would have put a record better than 7-5.
                      Kentucky fan since 1971.

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                      • KevinHall
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 6857

                        #266
                        Originally posted by Matt Dillon
                        All I can say is the Leach detractors had better hope he doesn't ever end up in the SEC. If he does, you'll see whether or not he can win in the conference.
                        I hope he does. He will have some pretty 7-5 teams but not any better than that. You have to have a solid defense to win in the SEC. History has proven his team are not solid on defense.
                        Kentucky fan since 1971.

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                        • teamchemistry15
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 7022

                          #267
                          Question about Neal Brown:

                          Why does everyone want him as a head coach? I know he's had good success at Troy, but should we bring up all of the game threads from when he was our OC? I'm pretty sure every single Kentucky fan wanted him gone and celebrated when he was ran out of town. Now he could be our savior?

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                          • 40bill
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 8451

                            #268
                            Lol.....I think most folks would say this morning all Neal Browns shortcomings are Mark Stoops fault.

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                            • Spiritof96
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 13503

                              #269
                              Originally posted by teamchemistry15
                              Question about Neal Brown:

                              Why does everyone want him as a head coach? I know he's had good success at Troy, but should we bring up all of the game threads from when he was our OC? I'm pretty sure every single Kentucky fan wanted him gone and celebrated when he was ran out of town. Now he could be our savior?
                              I didn't...

                              That first USC win was exhibit A as to how creative our O could be. I still don't think I would want him as HC, it would be too big a gamble.
                              Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                              ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                              Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                              No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                              RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                              • catfaninin
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 2016

                                #270
                                Originally posted by Matt Dillon
                                All I can say is the Leach detractors had better hope he doesn't ever end up in the SEC. If he does, you'll see whether or not he can win in the conference.
                                He can obviously win games in the SEC. But I doubt he would ever sniff at a championship. SEC football is a totally different game. The gimmicky stuff will be successful in the PAC12 and Big12. Not so much in the SEC. One has to think that played a big part in Kelly deciding on UCLA.

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