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  • johnkyblue
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 4418

    #226
    Originally posted by teamchemistry15

    Austin made 100% for his career? Never missed?
    He's really good, and that ball was taken by a gust of win. You watched the game on television, didn't you? Did the moron announcers never mention the strong gusts of wind?

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    • teamchemistry15
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 7022

      #227
      Originally posted by johnkyblue

      He's really good, and that ball was taken by a gust of win. You watched the game on television, didn't you? Did the moron announcers never mention the strong gusts of wind?
      I'm so sorry peasants like me who live two hours away and work six days a week don't go to every home game. Please forgive me for not understanding why the wind was so devastating to Kentucky but not Louisville. Maybe if I was there I would understand.

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      • johnkyblue
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 4418

        #228
        The first time I mentioned it, the wind, to be clear, I said Lamar Jackson was a better passer and could deal with it easier. I'm so sorry I tucked that detail in a post from last night. Maybe if I made sure to mention it in all the subsequent posts I wouldn't be so confusing.

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        • George
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 10355

          #229
          Originally posted by johnkyblue
          The first time I mentioned it, the wind, to be clear, I said Lamar Jackson was a better passer and could deal with it easier. I'm so sorry I tucked that detail in a post from last night. Maybe if I made sure to mention it in all the subsequent posts I wouldn't be so confusing.
          The wind had nothing to do with us getting our asses whipped. This is a desperate argument and no one's buying it.

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          • Matt Dillon
            Administrator
            • Oct 2014
            • 49617

            #230
            Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

            The wind had nothing to do with us getting our asses whipped. This is a desperate argument and no one's buying it.
            Exactly, Downes. When you lose by 27 points one FG missed, or made, is inconsequential.
            Philippians 4:11-4:13

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            • justford
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 4669

              #231
              It was a Bob Seger "Against the Wind" day

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              • teamchemistry15
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 7022

                #232
                Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

                The wind had nothing to do with us getting our asses whipped. This is a desperate argument and no one's buying it.
                But he was there unlike all of us. He knows exactly how hard the wind was blowing on every incompletion Johnson had. We should take his word for it.

                Come to think of it, maybe the wind was blowing hard enough to blow our DBs out of position and five yards away from their receivers.

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                • johnkyblue
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 4418

                  #233
                  A desperate argument? Mentioning HOW we were inferior is a desperate argument?

                  If Jackson has an accuracy of 92 and Johnson an accuracy of 88 and the wind causes a -5 then puts Johnson's ability to complete passes without interceptions at a level (83) that's unacceptable, while Jackson can still complete passes reasonably (87). Demonstrated denseness does make my point "desperate".

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                  • johnkyblue
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 4418

                    #234
                    Originally posted by Matt Dillon

                    Exactly, Downes. When you lose by 27 points one FG missed, or made, is inconsequential.
                    NOT my point.

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                    • George
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 10355

                      #235
                      Originally posted by johnkyblue
                      A desperate argument? Mentioning HOW we were inferior is a desperate argument?

                      If Jackson has an accuracy of 92 and Johnson an accuracy of 88 and the wind causes a -5 then puts Johnson's ability to complete passes without interceptions at a level (83) that's unacceptable, while Jackson can still complete passes reasonably (87). Demonstrated denseness does make my point "desperate".
                      It's desperate to argue that the wind is the reason we were the inferior team.

                      As for the rest of this, well... I don't really know what to say except "seek help." You've invented football wind formulas to aid you in internet arguments.

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                      • johnkyblue
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 4418

                        #236
                        Blame Madden for inventing passing accuracy rating....

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                        • catfaninin
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 2016

                          #237
                          Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

                          Third, yes, but a nine-win season, and the north includes Stanford and Washington, which have both been really good teams as of late. There's only a difference of one win between the three of them, and the other two schools benefitted from a stronger non-conference schedule.

                          We're talking about nine-win seasons as the Promised Land at Kentucky, and given the shape of the SEC (especially the east) outside of the top two or three teams, I don't think the difference between it and the Pac-12 is as great as it used to be.

                          At the end of the day, this is a guy whose teams have won fewer than seven games only three times out of sixteen seasons since 2000. Eleven of those teams won eight or more games. Bring that to Kentucky and tell me we wouldn't be happy.

                          No comparison. The SEC has 3 teams with a shot at the playoffs. The PAC12 is not even in the conversation. And outside of a 2 or 3 year Oregon run and Washington's 1 year success haven't been. Teams like LSU and Miss St would fare very well in the PAC 12.

                          Leach is a good coach. Probably even a bit ahead of Stoops at this point. But I am not interested in having a lunatic who has twice been accused of abusing players as the face of the program. And frankly for as many times as I have saw you say Stoops doesn't look very smart it surprises me you would. Leach makes Stoops look like a Rhodes scholar.

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                          • George
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 10355

                            #238
                            Originally posted by catfaninin


                            No comparison. The SEC has 3 teams with a shot at the playoffs. The PAC12 is not even in the conversation. And outside of a 2 or 3 year Oregon run and Washington's 1 year success haven't been. Teams like LSU and Miss St would fare very well in the PAC 12.

                            Leach is a good coach. Probably even a bit ahead of Stoops at this point. But I am not interested in having a lunatic who has twice been accused of abusing players as the face of the program. And frankly for as many times as I have saw you say Stoops doesn't look very smart it surprises me you would. Leach makes Stoops look like a Rhodes scholar.
                            I get that, but we're talking about the SEC East vs. the Pac-12 North. Stanford and Washington have both been in the playoff conversation in the last few years. And though there's no real way to quantify it, I think you're giving the SEC (and the East, specifically) more credit than it deserves. The conference is down, and it has been for two or three years now. You mention LSU and Miss St., but again, they're in the SEC West. When I talk about Leach having success here, I do so with the East in mind.

                            You're wrong about Leach's intellect, though. The guy's brilliant. He's eccentric as hell, but he's brilliant. Like, one of those guy's who's weird because he's so smart.

                            Stoops isn't. Tucker's article supports what I've been saying for quite a while.

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                            • George
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 10355

                              #239
                              Originally posted by johnkyblue
                              Blame Madden for inventing passing accuracy rating....
                              I blame you for trying to quantify the effects of wind.

                              Let it go, John. We lost because outside of Benny, we played atrocious football.

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                              • catfaninin
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 2016

                                #240
                                Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

                                I get that, but we're talking about the SEC East vs. the Pac-12 North. Stanford and Washington have both been in the playoff conversation in the last few years. And though there's no real way to quantify it, I think you're giving the SEC (and the East, specifically) more credit than it deserves. The conference is down, and it has been for two or three years now. You mention LSU and Miss St., but again, they're in the SEC West. When I talk about Leach having success here, I do so with the East in mind.

                                You're wrong about Leach's intellect, though. The guy's brilliant. He's eccentric as hell, but he's brilliant. Like, one of those guy's who's weird because he's so smart.

                                Stoops isn't. Tucker's article supports what I've been saying for quite a while.
                                Obviously the west is better. And this year the east is for sure way down. With Mullen UF will be back in a big way very soon. I think 3rd in the east is in most years about the best we could hope for, with Stoops , Leach or most any other name you want to throw out.

                                And I get Leach is very intelligent. He just does a really good job of not letting it show.

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