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  • George
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 10355

    #241
    Originally posted by catfaninin

    Obviously the west is better. And this year the east is for sure way down. With Mullen UF will be back in a big way very soon. I think 3rd in the east is in most years about the best we could hope for, with Stoops , Leach or most any other name you want to throw out.

    And I get Leach is very intelligent. He just does a really good job of not letting it show.
    Agreed.

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    • Matt Dillon
      Administrator
      • Oct 2014
      • 49617

      #242
      Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

      You're wrong about Leach's intellect, though. The guy's brilliant. He's eccentric as hell, but he's brilliant. Like, one of those guy's who's weird because he's so smart.
      You're right about him being highly intelligent. He attended law school and earned a Juris Doctor law degree from Pepperdine University School Of Law.

      Philippians 4:11-4:13

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      • George
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 10355

        #243
        Originally posted by Matt Dillon

        You're right about him being highly intelligent. He attended law school and earned a Juris Doctor law degree from Pepperdine University School Of Law.
        Yep.

        He's also incredibly knowledgable about pirates. (True story.)

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        • Matt Dillon
          Administrator
          • Oct 2014
          • 49617

          #244
          Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

          Yep.

          He's also incredibly knowledgable about pirates. (True story.)
          It's one of his interests outside of fb. He's well known for that.
          Philippians 4:11-4:13

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          • George
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 10355

            #245
            Originally posted by Matt Dillon

            It's one of his interests outside of fb. He's well known for that.
            It's barely tangentially relevant, but my Dad recently got me started on the Patrick O'Brien Master and Commander series. Ever read those? Bet Leach has.

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            • Old School
              Administrator
              • Oct 2014
              • 2218

              #246
              Leach's record of success as a head coach really can't be credibly questioned. He did things at Texas Tech that no one else did or even expected, and he turned them from an afterthought into a consistent winner - the only consistent winner in the conference throughout his years there. Then he changed Washington State from being one of the very worst programs, maybe the worst Power 5 program at the time, into a winner. And he's no flash in the pan, as it is consistent success, over more than a decade and a half. That's no small feat, as we watch Butch Jones, Kevin Sumlin, Jim McElwain, Jim Mora and Mike Riley - all once up and comers making waves - get fired, just like Les Miles, Tommy Tuberville, Charlie Strong the year before that, or Al Golden, Steve Spurrier, George O'Leary, Will Muschamp, Bo Pelini, Brady Hoke, Charlie Weis, Mack Brown, Lane Kiffen, Gene Chizik, Derek Dooley, etc. before that. Leach has won, consistently, over a long period of time, and in difficult jobs. He's produced pretty remarkable results for where he has coached.

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              • George
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 10355

                #247
                Originally posted by Old School
                Leach's record of success as a head coach really can't be credibly questioned. He did things at Texas Tech that no one else did or even expected, and he turned them from an afterthought into a consistent winner - the only consistent winner in the conference throughout his years there. Then he changed Washington State from being one of the very worst programs, maybe the worst Power 5 program at the time, into a winner. And he's no flash in the pan, as it is consistent success, over more than a decade and a half. That's no small feat, as we watch Butch Jones, Kevin Sumlin, Jim McElwain, Jim Mora and Mike Riley - all once up and comers making waves - get fired, just like Les Miles, Tommy Tuberville, Charlie Strong the year before that, or Al Golden, Steve Spurrier, George O'Leary, Will Muschamp, Bo Pelini, Brady Hoke, Charlie Weis, Mack Brown, Lane Kiffen, Gene Chizik, Derek Dooley, etc. before that. Leach has won, consistently, over a long period of time, and in difficult jobs. He's produced pretty remarkable results for where he has coached.
                That's what I meant to say.

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                • KevinHall
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 6857

                  #248
                  I only saw part of this game and it was a good thing. I was listening while driving around doing errands. Leach and the others seemed very disgusted at UK's antics during this game. It was just embarrassing. I am also sick of Stoops saying after every loss he has to do better. Well do it then! and quit crying.
                  I am sure the enthusiasm for a bowl game with be just overwhelming after this game. I'm not sure there will be a worse team than UK that will get a bowl bid. They have just looked awful the last two games. Defense is non-existent. This is from a coach who was known for his defense. This is "his" players too. You can't blame Joker any longer. Oh well UK won 7 games against a very weak SEC. They had a chance for a special season and totally blew it. God knows how long it will be before they have another chance like this.
                  Kentucky fan since 1971.

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                  • KevinHall
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 6857

                    #249
                    Also on Leach, he would n;t be doing any better at UK. Leach's teams have never had good defenses that I can remember. That sounds familiar doesn't it? Also coaching in the Big 12 and Pac 12 still isn't the SEC. Leach would get UK to 7 wins but I doubt any better than that. He is a strange guy too that just wouldn't fit well at UK. He would have to win big to over come that and as I said he wouldn't at UK.
                    Kentucky fan since 1971.

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                    • teamchemistry15
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 7022

                      #250
                      Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

                      Yep.

                      He's also incredibly knowledgable about pirates. (True story.)
                      I really appreciated his marriage advice considering I just tied the knot last weekend. If you haven't seen it do yourself a favor and find it on YouTube.

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                      • teamchemistry15
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 7022

                        #251
                        Out of curiosity I went back to the miss by MacGinnis. Here's a picture right before the ball hit the post. Look at that wind blowing...

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                        • johnkyblue
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 4418

                          #252
                          You can see air? Do you wear the glasses the Reading Rainbow dude on ST:TNG wore? Do particles of air get broadcast over television? High Def is REALLY high def now, huh? If it wasn't windy at that moment, he missed it because there was a gust then it quit.

                          I cannot believe anybody would try to argue that wind doesn't affect footballs and that, despite what is being reported to you first hand, it wasn't windy and particularly gusty. Was there nobody else there? As evidently it takes collaboration of a hundred people to verify it was windy and gusty. I was gonna leave it alone, but a picture of air?!?

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                          • Uncle Dave
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 1979

                            #253
                            Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

                            It's barely tangentially relevant, but my Dad recently got me started on the Patrick O'Brien Master and Commander series. Ever read those? Bet Leach has.
                            LOL. The movie Master and Commander with Russell Crowe is truly outstanding.

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                            • George
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 10355

                              #254
                              Originally posted by johnkyblue
                              You can see air? Do you wear the glasses the Reading Rainbow dude on ST:TNG wore? Do particles of air get broadcast over television? High Def is REALLY high def now, huh? If it wasn't windy at that moment, he missed it because there was a gust then it quit.

                              I cannot believe anybody would try to argue that wind doesn't affect footballs and that, despite what is being reported to you first hand, it wasn't windy and particularly gusty. Was there nobody else there? As evidently it takes collaboration of a hundred people to verify it was windy and gusty. I was gonna leave it alone, but a picture of air?!?
                              First, the picture is of an unmoving flag.

                              Second, no one's saying that wind doesn't affect games. We're saying that we don't agree with your claim that the wind is the reason we lost the game. How you still fail to see that is beyond comprehension.

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                              • johnkyblue
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 4418

                                #255
                                I said MAJOR factor.

                                fac·tor
                                ˈfaktər/
                                noun
                                1. 1.
                                  a circumstance, fact, or influence that contributes to a result or outcome.
                                  "his legal problems were not a factor in his decision"
                                  synonyms: element, part, component, ingredient, strand, constituent, point, detail, item, feature, facet, aspect, characteristic, consideration, influence, circumstance
                                  "this had been a key factor in his decision to withdraw"
                                I stand by it, proudly.

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