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  • Joneslab
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 39604

    #436
    Rivals' TJ Walker was on Twitter earlier saying that he's tired of people saying nobody knows anything w/r/t Bolden. Then goes on to suggest that "some may not have all the info."

    Was clearly a shot at Matt Jones, who on his radio show today said that nobody really knows and that Bolden has changed his mind a bunch.

    Kind of an interesting development. I've seen some of these writers at subscription services like Rivals try to drum up hits on the final days of a recruitment, but generally they don't feel strongly enough to call anybody out over it.

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    • Joneslab
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 39604

      #437
      Also--and I didn't hear this myself but on the other board they're talking about it--Jones said that getting Allen is now not going to happen and the player has moved on.

      I find that fascinating, if true. Why would he wait and wait and then suddenly decide he has no interest in Kentucky? It was clear we were in on Bolden weeks ago, and Allen stayed interested in UK. Then all of a sudden he just drops us? That's odd to me and may suggest something is happening with Bolden.

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      • UKtimefor9
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2015
        • 105

        #438
        Originally posted by Will Lavender
        Also--and I didn't hear this myself but on the other board they're talking about it--Jones said that getting Allen is now not going to happen and the player has moved on.

        I find that fascinating, if true. Why would he wait and wait and then suddenly decide he has no interest in Kentucky? It was clear we were in on Bolden weeks ago, and Allen stayed interested in UK. Then all of a sudden he just drops us? That's odd to me and may suggest something is happening with Bolden.

        I hope so. Seems like it would be more than just a coincidence. Unless the Allen talk the past couple of weeks was nothing and he dropped UK a while ago.

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        • George
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 10355

          #439
          Originally posted by Will Lavender
          Also--and I didn't hear this myself but on the other board they're talking about it--Jones said that getting Allen is now not going to happen and the player has moved on.

          I find that fascinating, if true. Why would he wait and wait and then suddenly decide he has no interest in Kentucky? It was clear we were in on Bolden weeks ago, and Allen stayed interested in UK. Then all of a sudden he just drops us? That's odd to me and may suggest something is happening with Bolden.
          Speaking only from a gut feeling and uninformed internet chatter, I never believed we were truly in on Allen in the first place.

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          • Joneslab
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 39604

            #440
            Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

            Speaking only from a gut feeling and uninformed internet chatter, I never believed we were truly in on Allen in the first place.
            At one point we definitely were in on him as he visited UK.

            This recent stuff I don't know about. So much is just echo chamber with recruiting: guys parroting other guys. You never know.

            With Bolden, something went down two weeks ago. Drew Franklin of all people seemed to be on the front edge of the Bolden-to-Duke stuff. But now it's shifted back to UK, though not many of the experts have actually chimed in so it's hard to say if this is all smoke.

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            • Pobilly
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 4933

              #441


              Just a little bit of Bam talking about how they are still recruiting Mr. Bolden.
              Proverbs 25:24

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              • Joneslab
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 39604

                #442
                Matt Jones ‏@KySportsRadio 31s31 seconds ago On Marques Bolden...I believe the kid slightly favors Kentucky...those around him heavily favor Duke. I have no idea who will win out

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                • George
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 10355

                  #443
                  Originally posted by Will Lavender
                  Matt Jones ‏@KySportsRadio 31s31 seconds ago On Marques Bolden...I believe the kid slightly favors Kentucky...those around him heavily favor Duke. I have no idea who will win out
                  I don't get this at all. If you're a top five overall recruit and you're a big man, sure. Go wherever. If it's a good school with a good coach, you're probably getting drafted year one if you want.

                  But that's not Bolden.

                  Yeah, he's good, and yeah, he's highly ranked, but he's not Towns, Okahfor, Embiid, Davis, Cousins, et al. A year with Cal could make him a one-and-done; a year with K arguably doesn't offer that same guarantee.

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                  • Matt Dillon
                    Administrator
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 49622

                    #444
                    Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

                    I don't get this at all. If you're a top five overall recruit and you're a big man, sure. Go wherever. If it's a good school with a good coach, you're probably getting drafted year one if you want.

                    But that's not Bolden.

                    Yeah, he's good, and yeah, he's highly ranked, but he's not Towns, Okahfor, Embiid, Davis, Cousins, et al. A year with Cal could make him a one-and-done; a year with K arguably doesn't offer that same guarantee.
                    Just my opinion, but I think he's a one and done no matter if he attends Duke or UK.
                    Philippians 4:11-4:13

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                    • Joneslab
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 39604

                      #445
                      ^ Okafor did pretty well.

                      And I agree with you. I think he'd be a solid contributor but he isn't Karl Towns. However, the player and his family don't know that. They're always being sold that they're next. We can see flaws from the outside; they often can't.

                      I'd assume that Bolden feels like anywhere he goes is a stepping stone to the league, and in that way Duke isn't a terrible choice. This is a school, after all, that may have the #1 overall pick in a couple of months. They've had success with one-and-dones. It would be different if he were choosing Washington or Ruters or Mississippi State, but there isn't a ton of difference at this point in Duke and UK.

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                      • Joneslab
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 39604

                        #446
                        Originally posted by Matt Dillon

                        Just my opinion, but I think he's a one and done no matter where he attends college.
                        Unless he really improves he isn't.

                        Not that caliber of a player. Would be great for UK for a lot of reasons, is going to play a lot, but think Caleb Swanigan. That's what sort of player he is at this stage of the game. This kid isn't a phenom.

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                        • Matt Dillon
                          Administrator
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 49622

                          #447
                          Originally posted by Will Lavender

                          Unless he really improves he isn't.

                          Not that caliber of a player. Would be great for UK for a lot of reasons, is going to play a lot, but think Caleb Swanigan. That's what sort of player he is at this stage of the game. This kid isn't a phenom.
                          I haven't kept up with Bolden, but given they way some of WCN are talking, I thought he was a game changer. How many, if any, players that you would consider to be of his caliber, or worse, have you seen leave UK after one season since Cal's been here, Will?
                          Philippians 4:11-4:13

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                          • George
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 10355

                            #448
                            Originally posted by Matt Dillon

                            I haven't kept up with Bolden, but given they way some of WCN are talking, I thought he was a game changer. How many, if any, players that you would consider to be of his caliber, or worse, have you seen leave UK after one season since Cal's been here, Will?
                            That's exactly my point. At UK, those guys can go after a year; at Duke, they can, but they haven't at the rate of Cal's guys.

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                            • Joneslab
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 39604

                              #449
                              Originally posted by Matt Dillon

                              I haven't kept up with Bolden, but given they way some of WCN are talking, I thought he was a game changer. How many, if any, players that you would consider to be of his caliber, or worse, have you seen leave UK after one season since Cal's been here, Will?
                              He is a game-changer in that he's a big body who can contribute right away. That would be huge for UK, in part because you always want big bodies but also because Bam could be the 4. And Bam at the 4 might put him in the Naismith discussion next year. If he has to play the 5 there'll be a learning curve.

                              But Bolden is more in line with Dakari. Nice player, more athletic than Dakari, but that's the sort of player you're getting if you get him. Not the sort of guy like Bam or Monk who's going to be a lock in the first round all year.

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                              • Joneslab
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 39604

                                #450
                                Aaron Kall ‏@AaronsUKBBBlog 39s39 seconds ago
                                USA Today's Jim Halley says Marques Bolden may take advantage of the TV coverage to name his school at the Jordan Brand Classic

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