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  • teamchemistry15
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 7022

    #16
    Originally posted by J.Jennings

    Agreed,, at least we will have 10 guys for a full practice now, maybe lol lol lol lol

    Maybe Jon Hood is available to bring in for practices.

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    • Spiritof96
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 13503

      #17


      Amazing lack of athleticism.

      How can he even get up and down the court?
      Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
      ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
      Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
      No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
      RIP: Charlie Munger​

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      • DA#23
        Administrator
        • Oct 2014
        • 7342

        #18
        ^ I know this is 2015, but when did a 38" vertical become average? Seems pretty darn good to me.

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        • Joneslab
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 39604

          #19
          Originally posted by matt colvin
          ^ I know this is 2015, but when did a 38" vertical become average? Seems pretty darn good to me.
          Good point.

          Still never looked out there and thought, "Man, Aaron's athletic."

          I think he can hold his own. I also think there's merit to JWORLD's point about his ballhandling. But his main issue in terms of the NBA is just that he's one of those players who's good at a lot of things but great at nothing. I didn't think he improved this past year the way I thought he would. A case can be made that outside the tournament run his freshman year, Aaron Harrison was as good in his first 10 or 12 games at UK than he was at any point in his career. Just never improved his shooting like he could have.

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          • J.Jennings
            Banned
            • Oct 2014
            • 7005

            #20
            Originally posted by Spiritof96


            Amazing lack of athleticism.

            How can he even get up and down the court?
            Well I didn't want to go there lol lol lol lol lol lol

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            • DA#23
              Administrator
              • Oct 2014
              • 7342

              #21
              Originally posted by Will Lavender

              Good point.

              Still never looked out there and thought, "Man, Aaron's athletic."
              I don't think it's that great a point. We've discussed on here many times: there's a lot more to athleticism than one's measured vertical, and athleticism taken on the whole determines whether or not a player can display some of those "measureables" within a game setting, versus just doing it in the gym.

              Playing with the ball versus away from it are entirely different, and I think the play away from the ball is where a guy like Aaron must improve in order to take away some discussion as what he'll do on drives in the NBA. If you're a guy touting yourself on game savvy, big cajones, size for position (again, they are not that big and they rarely played big), and a knack for big shots....then why don't rebound a little better and come up with more "must get" rebounds. You tell me you have a 38" vertical but then you don't impress me with the occasional effort rebound, especially in traffic.

              Dang, man!

              You don't have to be Russell Westbrook to play the 2G, but you must work like a Reggie Miller or Ray Allen in order to make it. It doesn't seem like Lamb has so far. Let's hope Aaron does, because Lamb'd shoot his eyes out.

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              • DA#23
                Administrator
                • Oct 2014
                • 7342

                #22
                Back to Mulder, a former classmate went to Vincennes and seemed quite peeved last week when I mentioned Mulder might become a Cat. Then proceeded to remind her of Crean's contract and how Zeller/Oladipo would graduate from IU "because school matters to them".

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                • teamchemistry15
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 7022

                  #23
                  Having a maximum of a 38 inch vertical and having one highlight dunk in two years doesnt make you a freakish athlete. Once again, show me one 6'5 guard in the NBA that couldnt do the same thing in that video. He is an average athlete. A freakish athlete has the total package. A freakish athlete has speed, quickness, leaping ability, body control, etc. A freakish athlete in the NBA looks like Blake Griffin, Westbrook, LaVine, LeBron, Davis, Aaron Gordon, Gerald Green, Wall, etc. Aaron Harrison doesnt belong in the freakish athlete category. He has a maximum vertical of 38 inches, but I wonder how many times in his career he has hit that. I am not saying he is a terrible athlete, but for someone to say he is "freakish" is absurd. If he was a freakish athlete he would be predicted in the lottery, not mid second round.

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                  • Spiritof96
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 13503

                    #24
                    Originally posted by teamchemistry15
                    Having a maximum of a 38 inch vertical and having one highlight dunk in two years doesnt make you a freakish athlete. Once again, show me one 6'5 guard in the NBA that couldnt do the same thing in that video. He is an average athlete. A freakish athlete has the total package. A freakish athlete has speed, quickness, leaping ability, body control, etc. A freakish athlete in the NBA looks like Blake Griffin, Westbrook, LaVine, LeBron, Davis, Aaron Gordon, Gerald Green, Wall, etc. Aaron Harrison doesnt belong in the freakish athlete category. He has a maximum vertical of 38 inches, but I wonder how many times in his career he has hit that. I am not saying he is a terrible athlete, but for someone to say he is "freakish" is absurd. If he was a freakish athlete he would be predicted in the lottery, not mid second round.
                    As I said. He isn't freakish by NBA standards; but by every other standard, he is. He is plenty athletic enough to contribute in the league. (if he improves his shooting % and adds to his game)
                    Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                    ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                    Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                    No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                    RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                    • teamchemistry15
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 7022

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Spiritof96
                      As I said. He isn't freakish by NBA standards; but by every other standard, he is. He is plenty athletic enough to contribute in the league. (if he improves his shooting % and adds to his game)
                      I agree he is athletic enough to play in the NBA, but by what standards do you view him as a freakish athlete?

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                      • J.Jennings
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 7005

                        #26
                        Aaron can be the next Jamal Crawford if he works on his dribble drive. I have no doubts that his shooting is there but it's the play of getting to the rim that concerns me.

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                        • teamchemistry15
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 7022

                          #27
                          Originally posted by J.Jennings
                          Aaron can be the next Jamal Crawford if he works on his dribble drive. I have no doubts that his shooting is there but it's the play of getting to the rim that concerns me.
                          Freakish athletes shouldnt have a problem getting to the rim
                          I think Aaron can be a Michael Redd type player if he puts in the time to increase his 3 point percentage. I dont think he can develop the quickness to get around guys in the NBA to get to the rim to use that massive vertical, but he is long enough to be able to shoot over guys.

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                          • Spiritof96
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 13503

                            #28
                            Originally posted by teamchemistry15

                            I agree he is athletic enough to play in the NBA, but by what standards do you view him as a freakish athlete?
                            Any human standard you use that isn't an NBA (or NFL) scale of "athletic freak".

                            His body control alone for his size (assuming he is a big as he is listed) makes him a 1%er. Were he not an amazing athlete, he couldn't have made the play I posted in a million tries.

                            Again, it isn't like he is Wiltjer.
                            Originally posted by John Stuart Mill
                            ​He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that... He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them...he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
                            Originally posted by Robert “Hoot” Gibson
                            No matter how bad things may seem, you can always make them worse.
                            RIP: Charlie Munger​

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                            • teamchemistry15
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 7022

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Spiritof96

                              Any human standard you use that isn't an NBA (or NFL) scale of "athletic freak".

                              His body control alone for his size (assuming he is a big as he is listed) makes him a 1%er. Were he not an amazing athlete, he couldn't have made the play I posted in a million tries.

                              Again, it isn't like he is Wiltjer.

                              So, to a normal person sitting behind a computer he is an athletic freak. But when matched against NCAA Division I or NBA shooting guards he is par at best. No one said he is Kyle Wiltjer. I am just stating that when grouped with a comparable group to him he is not a freak by any definition. Comparing him to anyone outside of NCAA Division I basketball or the NBA is apples and oranges. That is like comparing Harrison to me at my job. He has never done my job, nor has he ever been recruited to do my job, so obviously I will be better than him.

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                              • J.Jennings
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 7005

                                #30
                                I'll sum it up like this in regards to Aaron and whether or not he's a freak. Can he get his own shot off and create, yes!!!!!!! If he gets his handles in order alah Jodie Meeks, Aaron will be fine.

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