Which recruit has not lived up to expectations at UK in the Cal era?

[Joneslab]

Doron was never going to be a great NBA player. Just not enough size and almost nonexistent athleticism.

If I have to rank the Kentucky players under Cal, though, just judging by what he did for this program I have to think really hard at putting him at #5 behind the obvious ones (Davis, Wall, Cousins, Towns).

[KevinHall]

^ Yes Lamb was just fine at UK. I think he did what they wanted him to do and that was to be a knock down shooter. He was just too small for the NBA and didn't really do anything to set him apart from the 100 other small guards like him.

[George]

Sounds like a good BCG recruit to me. Has that fightin' spirit. Orton should have left after BCG was canned. I don't think he ever wanted to play for Cal.

I might try to dig it up, but Orton was quoted as saying he "should've went to Kansas."

[Blue Heaven]

I'm gonna say Orton. I believe it's unfair to say Harrow. He had some family issues with his Dad. I couldn't help but feel for the guy when I heard that news.

[Uncle Dave]

"He was recently released from whatever organization he was with for an incident very similar (though worse) to the one you referenced. "

He was on a pro team in China.

[Joneslab]

I'm gonna say Orton. I believe it's unfair to say Harrow. He had some family issues with his Dad. I couldn't help but feel for the guy when I heard that news.

Orton had some family stuff going on too. His mother died not long before he graduated from high school.

Harrow's father was ill, but I think there were more things going on there than that. His leave of absence from the team had to do with an altercation in the locker room that was by all accounts extremely messy. A similar thing happened with him at NC State.

[George]

Orton had some family stuff going on too. His mother died not long before he graduated from high school.

Harrow's father was ill, but I think there were more things going on there than that. His leave of absence from the team had to do with an altercation in the locker room that was by all accounts extremely messy. A similar thing happened with him at NC State.

I'd never heard that.

[DA#23]

His leave of absence from the team had to do with an altercation in the locker room that was by all accounts extremely messy.

D*#& IT, Archie?

[Joneslab]

D*#& IT, Archie?

Not sure. That info comes from one of Matt Jones' late night podcasts. Don't believe Jones said who the altercation was with. Sounded like it may have been a teamwide thing.

[Spiritof96]

I ask this because I can hardly think of anyone except Archie Goodwin and he now makes $1.6 million. I am old enough to remeber a number of highly touted recruits who did not pan out Derrick Hord is the one that comes to mind oh and Rashaad Carruth, Chuck Verdeber and Bret Bearup I could keep going but, Coach Cal has developed players better than any UK coach in my lifetime post Rupp.

This is a very good post. It seems like all through my college years I would hear about some great recruit that was going to set the world on fire and they almost never seemed to be as advertised when they arrived. Especially the bigs.

Not so with Cal's guys. Many if not most lived up to or surpassed the hype.

[Joneslab]

Cal's a really good talent scout. One of the more underrated things about him.

He's looking for NBA attributes: size, length, athleticism. Needless to say, those things translate well to college. The bad news: those things also get guys to the pros really quick.

[George]

Cal's a really good talent scout. One of the more underrated things about him.

He's looking for NBA attributes: size, length, athleticism. Needless to say, those things translate well to college. The bad news: those things also get guys to the pros really quick.

Kerry Kittles.



I'm sorry. I had to. I actually agree completely.

[KevinHall]

I'd never heard that.

Me either. I always felt his dad being ill was a convenient alibi for him. Like Will said he had problems at NC State too. IMO Cal should have never let him back after he went home early in that season. It screwed with team chemistry and set the tone for that season. They may have not done any better anyway as that team lacked the typical Calipari talent.

[Joneslab]

Kerry Kittles.



I'm sorry. I had to. I actually agree completely.

So true. Keith Van Horn too.

(Kittles did look like a can't-miss beast in college. I actually thought UK played against him, but I was wrong. I get Kittles and Tim Thomas mixed up.)

[JFCats22]

Kerry Kittles.



I'm sorry. I had to. I actually agree completely.

Kittles didn't end up being a superstar like many thought. However, he lasted 8+ years in the NBA and averaged 14+ points. Not a bad career. Also made almost $60 million (I would take it!)