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  • fastkat
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 651

    #46
    Originally posted by bthaunert

    I can almost guarantee you that Mitch never even saw that email. He has someone that filters his emails and that got sent directly to the person that oversees that area. Not saying that's not a very efficient way to handle the situation, but I highly doubt it ever made it to MItch's desk. Having worked in higher education for the last 25 years, individuals in those positions often have someone to parcel out emails that shouldn't take the time of a VP/President.

    My biggest issue is things like taking away more parking around football over and over again not giving the everyday fan a tailgating experience. Only having giveaways at the men's basketball game for those that sit in the lower level. When alcohol was first offered at Kroger Field, only offering it to the areas where the donors are sitting...one seat over can't buy alcohol for what reason? Those are ways you lose the common fan.
    I don't doubt that he didn't see it but the fact remains that someone in that office did and acted on it. Delegating assignments usually comes from the top.

    I agree on the parking, we're probably going to lose our tailgate this year and I'm not happy about that either. On the whole he's done a lot of good for the athletic department. AS far as alcohol goes I don't care. I'm glad I don't have a bunch of drunks around me at the games. I've been to Papa Johns Stadium enough times to see plenty of drunks that keep walking in front of me to get beer and to get rid of beer.

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    • bthaunert
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2025
      • 238

      #47
      Originally posted by fastkat

      I don't doubt that he didn't see it but the fact remains that someone in that office did and acted on it. Delegating assignments usually comes from the top.

      I agree on the parking, we're probably going to lose our tailgate this year and I'm not happy about that either. On the whole he's done a lot of good for the athletic department. AS far as alcohol goes I don't care. I'm glad I don't have a bunch of drunks around me at the games. I've been to Papa Johns Stadium enough times to see plenty of drunks that keep walking in front of me to get beer and to get rid of beer.
      I agree that he's done a lot of good for the athletic department. I think I mentioned earlier that anyone in a position for 24 years, regardless of their industry is going to make good and bad decisions. His are just a little more public than everyone else. As for the alcohol, my point was more about having it for sale in the elite seating areas, but not all areas. I'm not here to say it should be sold either way, but you either sell it to everyone or you don't sell it at all. Only selling it to the ones with money, and the way he explained it, gives a perception that the rest of the fans aren't elite enough for alcohol.

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      • Pete Hogwallop
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2025
        • 847

        #48
        I have never once thought the calls for him to be fired were warranted. However, I'm scratching my head about the concept of "retiring" while still being paid almost a million dollars per year to work in the same department. When I retire, that's not how things will go. And I don't consider that being retired.

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        • bthaunert
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2025
          • 238

          #49
          Originally posted by Pete Hogwallop
          I have never once thought the calls for him to be fired were warranted. However, I'm scratching my head about the concept of "retiring" while still being paid almost a million dollars per year to work in the same department. When I retire, that's not how things will go. And I don't consider that being retired.
          I was in your boat until the past few years. The following all led to me believing it was time:

          1. Contracts for Cal and Stoops. And then he adds a provision to Pope's contract that he gets an automatic 1-year extension if he makes a Sweet 16.
          2. The crippling JMI deal
          3. Handling of the swimming and diving coach sexual violence allegations

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          • Pete Hogwallop
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2025
            • 847

            #50
            Originally posted by bthaunert

            I was in your boat until the past few years. The following all led to me believing it was time:

            1. Contracts for Cal and Stoops. And then he adds a provision to Pope's contract that he gets an automatic 1-year extension if he makes a Sweet 16.
            2. The crippling JMI deal
            3. Handling of the swimming and diving coach sexual violence allegations
            I think most people were fairly OK with the Cal and Stoops contracts at the time they were given. However, both coaches stopped coaching as soon as they got them and they look like bad moves in hindsight.

            I don't know enough about the other 2 points to comment.

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            • bthaunert
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2025
              • 238

              #51
              Originally posted by Pete Hogwallop

              I think most people were fairly OK with the Cal and Stoops contracts at the time they were given. However, both coaches stopped coaching as soon as they got them and they look like bad moves in hindsight.

              I don't know enough about the other 2 points to comment.
              I've always thought any deal for more than 5 years was a bid idea. But I do realize that had Mitch not signed Cal to an extension when UCLA came calling that the fanbase would have been pissed.

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              • Pete Hogwallop
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2025
                • 847

                #52
                Originally posted by bthaunert

                I've always thought any deal for more than 5 years was a bid idea. But I do realize that had Mitch not signed Cal to an extension when UCLA came calling that the fanbase would have been pissed.
                I agree with this.

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