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  • ThroughBlue
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2025
    • 7

    #46
    Seeing his sub patterns over the years I too think he is better suited to coach a team with only 6 or 7

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    • BJD
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2016
      • 454

      #47
      Originally posted by KYJeff1

      Oh he definitely made promises. He had to, Duke was kicking his ass and all Cal was getting, was scraps, so he started making promises.

      The issue I had, was him making promises with Clutch. They held him to his word, so we had Schaedon Sharp sitting on our bench, using our facilities and refusing to play, then we had Justin Edwards starting over better players.

      It’s also why he beat us over the head with BJ Boston and we ended up with the worst season in UK history.

      Glad that mess is gone and we have a KY guy that tries to win every game, instead of draft night.
      Never heard one player say Cal broke promises made to him. Even the disgruntled guys that left never said that. My question earlier was if anyone can share a quote from any Cal player ever about being promised anything.

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      • KCKUKFan
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 14228

        #48
        Originally posted by BJD

        Never heard one player say Cal broke promises made to him. Even the disgruntled guys that left never said that. My question earlier was if anyone can share a quote from any Cal player ever about being promised anything.
        I don't think he ever made literal promises to them about anything, but I do think more vague notions were made to the top top guys: "we are building the team around you." That sort of thing.

        And the NBA pitch was baked into the deal. So that sort of worked as a promise, in a way.

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        • George
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 10355

          #49
          Originally posted by KCKUKFan

          I don't think he ever made literal promises to them about anything, but I do think more vague notions were made to the top top guys: "we are building the team around you." That sort of thing.

          And the NBA pitch was baked into the deal. So that sort of worked as a promise, in a way.
          And if you can’t look at the DJ Wagner situation and see what was going on there, well, I don’t know what to tell you.

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          • Davidmack
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2018
            • 169

            #50
            He is so full of it. “I thought we could win a national championship “. Lol.

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            • KYJeff1
              Member
              • Jul 2025
              • 79

              #51
              Originally posted by BJD

              Never heard one player say Cal broke promises made to him. Even the disgruntled guys that left never said that. My question earlier was if anyone can share a quote from any Cal player ever about being promised anything.
              I mean, that would be a stupid thing for a player to do. Not only would that be throwing Cal under the bus, but it would also tell the other players, through the media, that that player was promised playing time over them.

              But also, the promises that were made to clutch, weren't made to the players, they were made to the organization.

              There is no other explanation for the favoritism he displayed for Quade Green, BJB, Wheeler, Wagner and Edwards.
              Last edited by KYJeff1; 07-02-2025, 11:11 AM.

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              • EKYCat
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2022
                • 878

                #52
                Reeves, Dillingham, Sheppard were the most efficient trio we had on offense by a wide margin. Yet, they rarely played together. You can't tell me there weren't promises made for playing time in those situations.

                Wagner, Harrisons over Ulis and Booker, Edwards, Boston, Wheeler, Green, Harrow... the list goes on and on.

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                • Joneslab
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 39604

                  #53
                  Wenyen Gabriel had some unflattering things to say about Cal.

                  IIRC Dragon Whitney was not too pleased at the time.

                  Usually they'll stay quiet. I mean even Gillispie's players didn't all come out and bash him...when they easily could've. Cal still did a lot for those guys and even if the things he probably said beforehand didn't come true, there's surely a lot of complexity in their relationships with him.

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                  • KCKUKFan
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 14228

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Downes Van Zandt

                    And if you can’t look at the DJ Wagner situation and see what was going on there, well, I don’t know what to tell you.
                    That was a little different.

                    The promise was implied to DJ Wagner since he was a toddler. Nothing needed be said.

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                    • KCKUKFan
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2014
                      • 14228

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Davidmack
                      He is so full of it. “I thought we could win a national championship “. Lol.
                      To be fair, what was he supposed to say?

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                      • KCKUKFan
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 14228

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Will Lavender
                        Wenyen Gabriel had some unflattering things to say about Cal.

                        IIRC Dragon Whitney was not too pleased at the time.

                        Usually they'll stay quiet. I mean even Gillispie's players didn't all come out and bash him...when they easily could've. Cal still did a lot for those guys and even if the things he probably said beforehand didn't come true, there's surely a lot of complexity in their relationships with him.
                        Dragon Whitney is playing for LaFamilia this year.

                        Who saw that coming?

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                        • KCKUKFan
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 14228

                          #57
                          Originally posted by KYJeff1

                          I mean, that would be a stupid thing for a player to do. Not only would that be tgrowing Cal under the bus, but it would also tell the other players, through the media, that that player was promised playing time over them.

                          But also, the promises that were made to clutch, weren't made to the players, they were mafe to the organization.

                          There is no other explanation for the favoritism he displayed for Quade Green, BJB, Wheeler, Wagner and Edwards.
                          Wagner was a different situation, because of Cal's relationship with Sr.

                          I give him a pass on Edwards. Cal knew how good Edwards could be, and tried really hard to get him there. His performance in the NBA this year was proof that Edwards talent was never the problem. That kid was, and IS, really good.

                          Who were we playing over Sahvir Wheeler? He was a perfectly serviceable point guard. Not good enough to go where we wanted to go, but fine.

                          Cal adjusted on Quade quickly, when it was clear that Shae was the better option.

                          BJ Boston was one of three consistently decent players on a truly lousy roster.

                          Cal was a lazy disaster at the end of his tenure, but my only real gripe with his sub patterns was not playing Reed, Rob and Reeves together more often.

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                          • KCKUKFan
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 14228

                            #58
                            Originally posted by EKYCat
                            Reeves, Dillingham, Sheppard were the most efficient trio we had on offense by a wide margin. Yet, they rarely played together. You can't tell me there weren't promises made for playing time in those situations.

                            Wagner, Harrisons over Ulis and Booker, Edwards, Boston, Wheeler, Green, Harrow... the list goes on and on.
                            The Harrisons were better players in 2015 than Ulis and Booker. They deserved every bit of playing time they got.

                            Maybe the most underappreciated players of Cal's era, which is crazy when you consider how many epic memories we had of their teams.

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                            • KYWILDCAT41035
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2025
                              • 205

                              #59
                              Originally posted by KCKUKFan

                              Dragon Whitney is playing for LaFamilia this year.

                              Who saw that coming?
                              This TBT is stacked pretty good with Whitney, the Harrison twins , Lamb, WCS, Kanter's brother again, Almonor, Goodwin, and Liggin's. They have a a real decent shot at winning the whole thing.

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                              • ***St.Patterson-54***
                                Junior Member
                                • Jul 2025
                                • 24

                                #60
                                Depth is only good if they're a) TALENTED players, and b) you have some basic understanding of how to play them.

                                Sorry Cal. Neither of these apply to you.

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