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  • CATHYnKY
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 5568

    #91
    UT losing tonight helps or hurts UK

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    • Matt Dillon
      Administrator
      • Oct 2014
      • 49618

      #92
      Originally posted by CATHYnKY
      UT losing tonight helps or hurts UK
      UT's losing certainly makes our wins over them look a lot less impressive.
      Philippians 4:11-4:13

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      • Joneslab
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 39604

        #93
        That they lost to Texas A&M softens that a little. That TAMU win is looking like arguably the best one we have.

        But Tennessee is a shell of what they were a month ago for sure.

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        • Joneslab
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2014
          • 39604

          #94
          Originally posted by Wamcat

          NCAA site says they moved up one spot from 28 to 27. 🤷🏻‍♂️
          No.

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          • Joneslab
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 39604

            #95
            Also speaking of the NET, after last night's games Kentucky fell two spots. Most likely will not matter, but it shows you how much our resume is bolstered by Tennessee.

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            • Joneslab
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 39604

              #96
              More NET: John Clay points out that tonight's game is a Quad 1 opportunity.

              If we win out this week we could go from 1 to 6 Q1 wins in two weeks' time.

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              • Jeff ROCKober
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 420

                #97
                The Aggies are really good. Just had a bad November and early December but you don't want to play them on the road. Tennessee has slid but let's not forget they did knock off Bama. Purdue has struggled recently as well. Kentucky just needs to win tonight and hold court at home and they are firmly in and likely will be in as a 7-10 seed.

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                • Joneslab
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 39604

                  #98
                  Kentucky moves to number 29 in the NET.

                  Heck of a jump in the last 10 days.

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                  • Catsrock
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 5560

                    #99
                    We went from 35 to 29. But UF fell from 52 to 55. If they can’t find a win somewhere then our 2 wins against Florida could actually fall out of quad 1 category. They’ve got Vandy, UGA and LSU plus a first round tourney game. Not difficult but with Castleton out who knows?

                    My recommendation for the Cats—just try real hard to win each game! We’re not considered on the bubble now, but try to improve our seed.

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                    • Joneslab
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 39604

                      #100
                      Originally posted by Catsrock
                      We went from 35 to 29. But UF fell from 52 to 55. If they can’t find a win somewhere then our 2 wins against Florida could actually fall out of quad 1 category. They’ve got Vandy, UGA and LSU plus a first round tourney game. Not difficult but with Castleton out who knows?

                      My recommendation for the Cats—just try real hard to win each game! We’re not considered on the bubble now, but try to improve our seed.
                      As discussed above I believe the win still counts as Quad 1 because they were there when we got the win.

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                      • lilproUK98
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 2472

                        #101
                        Originally posted by Will Lavender

                        As discussed above I believe the win still counts as Quad 1 because they were there when we got the win.
                        I believe win quality is determined by the net standings at the time of the seeding process, no?

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                        • lilproUK98
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                          • Nov 2014
                          • 2472

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                          Seems to be a team's bet ranking at the time if seeding is what they go by, not at the time a game was played.

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                          • Joneslab
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 39604

                            #103
                            Originally posted by lilproUK98

                            I believe win quality is determined by the net standings at the time of the seeding process, no?
                            The NET standings, probably so. But I don't think they change teams' records against Quad 1 as the year goes on. I think that's fixed.

                            However the committee is still looking at the raw ranking so there's a lot of illusion in Quad 1 records. Not just with Kentucky but a lot of teams. That Florida win won't be a major deal if they're trying to debate on our seed line, I wouldn't imagine, because of the Castleton thing.

                            But it was a game we couldn't lose.

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                            • justafan
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 1407

                              #104
                              Thinking will get you in trouble.

                              Quad wins/losses move daily with NET rankings changes.

                              if you want to think otherwise, continue on. If you want proof, look at Alabama, they now have an 8th Q1 win since UK is 29th NET their previous Q2 win at home is now Q1 win (home win over 1-30 NET).


                              Originally posted by Will Lavender

                              The NET standings, probably so. But I don't think they change teams' records against Quad 1 as the year goes on. I think that's fixed.

                              However the committee is still looking at the raw ranking so there's a lot of illusion in Quad 1 records. Not just with Kentucky but a lot of teams. That Florida win won't be a major deal if they're trying to debate on our seed line, I wouldn't imagine, because of the Castleton thing.

                              But it was a game we couldn't lose.

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                              • Joneslab
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 39604

                                #105
                                Originally posted by justafan
                                Thinking will get you in trouble.

                                Quad wins/losses move daily with NET rankings changes.

                                if you want to think otherwise, continue on. If you want proof, look at Alabama, they now have an 8th Q1 win since UK is 29th NET their previous Q2 win at home is now Q1 win (home win over 1-30 NET).
                                Good to know.

                                I don't think any of this will matter a ton on SS. I just assume if there's any chance they can work us into the 8/9 that's where we'll be.

                                Another weird thing about the SEC is how many teams are very similarly ranked in the NET. There are like 5 teams that are moving in and out of Quad 1.

                                Another thing is how disappointing that Michigan St. game was. Michigan St. has 8 Quad 1 wins and is 36th. Had we guarded on that one out-of-bounds possession Kentucky is probably a top 20 team in the NET today.

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